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Who is the baddest of the bad? SEALs, Rangers, Marines, ?

Posted on 02/12/2003 9:50:41 AM PST by ConservativeDude

Who is the baddes of all our special forces? Rangers? SEALs? Other?


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You freepers are always so knowledgable and delightfully opinionated about these sorts of things, so, I must know: which of the special forces are the baddest? Please explain your opinion. Also, is there a Marine equivalent to special ops? Or is it right to say that all Marines are special ops?
1 posted on 02/12/2003 9:50:41 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude
bump for later read.
2 posted on 02/12/2003 9:53:23 AM PST by exnavy
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IMO, the SEALS have the toughest, most intensive training, and in such a variety of fields, that they are undoubtedly the best of the best.
3 posted on 02/12/2003 9:54:43 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave)
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Well, "Rangers lead the way!" But on the other hand, during the Black Hawk Down trouble in Somalia, the main force consisted of Army Rangers who (understandably) were frozen with fear and unable to decide how to complete their mission. Then the Delta Force guys would come up, slap the Rangers on the shoulder and say, "Follow me!"

Delta Force guys were scary -- even to the Rangers.

4 posted on 02/12/2003 9:55:56 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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The Marine spec ops would be either Force Recon or their Sniper/Recon teams.

My personal favorite is the Air Force Air Commandos.
Who else can you get to fly an MC-130 a zero altitude on a dark rainy night to the middle of a battle field?
5 posted on 02/12/2003 9:57:49 AM PST by b fair
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Well based on personal experience, I can whip 10 Seals, a dozen Marines and 10 Rangers. Not all at once tho.

Getting back to reality, I once saw an interview on TV of French Foreign Legion veteran who had been in a few fights. It always stuck in my mind that he said there wasn't a lot of difference between the various "elite" troops.

The Navy Seals certainly have the worlds best publicity people tho.

6 posted on 02/12/2003 9:59:31 AM PST by yarddog
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If the criterion used is, who has caused the most destruction while sustaining the least casualties, I'd have to vote for Janet Reno's Justice Department.
7 posted on 02/12/2003 10:00:45 AM PST by Renfield
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I'd say Seals due to their training but in combat there are always suprises and our fighting men are pound for pound the most lethal in the history of the world. Any one of them regardless of their branch could rise to the occassion.
8 posted on 02/12/2003 10:01:49 AM PST by Lee Heggy
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It really depend on what needs to be done. Rangers and Marines destroy things and capture territory. Seals infiltrate from the sea. Army Special Forces (Green Beret) organize indigenous forces for resistance. AF Special Ops insert, extract and support other Special operators and control the air-ground interface.
9 posted on 02/12/2003 10:01:50 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Next New Moon - Saddam, it's over.)
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I dunno which branch of the military has the toughest operators, but I think Terry Tate is pretty rugged!

10 posted on 02/12/2003 10:02:55 AM PST by MassExodus (Seeing Hillary sacked by two office line backers would be the greatest.)
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The ones we haven't heard of.
11 posted on 02/12/2003 10:03:05 AM PST by LibWhacker
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The baddest is the man that will fight you to the death in a foxhole. Training or military group does not transcend the fight for survival.
12 posted on 02/12/2003 10:04:40 AM PST by cynicom
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With all else being equal I would have to give it to the Seals - due simply to the nature of their mission - which is one of "unconventional warfare".
13 posted on 02/12/2003 10:06:29 AM PST by The Duke
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that they are undoubtedly the best of the best.

And these guys are the best of the best of the best:


14 posted on 02/12/2003 10:06:50 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Next New Moon - Saddam, it's over.)
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My mother when PO'ed.
15 posted on 02/12/2003 10:07:10 AM PST by dts32041 (Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun, the caliber of which does not start with a "4".)
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From what I understand Seals will drop in from carrier based aircraft.

I'll have to ask my buddy an ex-Seal and my Father a Navy man who has known a few Seals.

I do not think they are limited to Sea insertions or water based missions.
16 posted on 02/12/2003 10:07:22 AM PST by CyberCowboy777 (Extremism in the Pursuit of Liberty is no Vice!)
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I would say, after a long study of history, the toughest guy in the world is a well informed, free man who's life is interrupted by some ass from another country. The most decorated man in the US Military during WWII was a little guy from west Texas with no special training. He came through not once or twice but time after time.
17 posted on 02/12/2003 10:07:47 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Compassionate Conservative Curmudgeon)
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I vote for the CIA special ops. Many of the pictures of scruffy looking Americans with camo'd M-4's in Afghanistan are CIA not Delta.

cheers,
tjg
18 posted on 02/12/2003 10:08:33 AM PST by pinetree
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I believe the British Royal Marines go through the toughest training. Some scary stuff. But I guess tough would mean being inserted in the sh*t frequently, it would have to be Delta or of course, the IDF special forces.
19 posted on 02/12/2003 10:09:26 AM PST by Benrand
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It has been said, by the founder and editor of "Soldier of Fortune" that "such things are better debated by cooks and mechanics." The fact that we have such men is enough for me.
20 posted on 02/12/2003 10:09:36 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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