SF CHRON ON FR: FReep This -- How The Right Wing Is Making Itself Heard

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | January 30, 2003 | Joyce Slaton

[L.N. Smithee]

Something strange happened during the 2000 Gore-Bush election fiasco you may have missed.

CNN, which was running 24-hour special election coverage, hosted a program with conservative columnist Bob Novak shortly after the disputed election results were returned. Novak was adamant that Al Gore should quit trying to steal the election and concede. To bolster his point, he brought up the results of CNN.com's public-opinion poll "Should Al Gore concede?" Poll results showed that a full 89 percent of the thousands of people who had visited CNN.com and voted had agreed -- Gore should give up the ghost.

[1john2 3and4]

The online polls must be freeped. Mark my words: otherwise the liberal news organizations would be reporting the liberal results as a piece of accurate news.

freeping polls? im OUTRAGED! but democratic VOTER fraud? nahhhhhh, that's ok....

[PJ-Comix]

Let's see. $4000 at 25 cents a pop....

Will Ms Slaton be issuing a correction? Inquiring minds want to know.

[JudgemAll]

Boohhhooohhhooooo! ahhhh! Next, Freepers on Halloween night displays?

[JudgemAll]

freeping polls? im OUTRAGED! but democratic VOTER fraud? nahhhhhh, that's ok....

HEAR HEAR!

[JudgemAll]

freeping polls? im OUTRAGED! but democratic VOTER fraud? nahhhhhh, that's ok....

HEAR HEAR!

we need to freep that one back on their face!! quick FR ONLINE POLLLLLLLINNNNNNNNNNGGGGS!!!

[E Rocc]

Oh really, Ms Slaton? Have you ever checked out the Democratic Underground? It that isn't LUNATIC FRINGE then I don't know what is. I know you are reading this thread Ms Slaton and I CHALLENGE you to read the Democratic Underground and then write an article denying allegations that they are a LUNATIC FRINGE. I would be happy to provide you quotes from that site. Oh, and if you do check out the Democratic Underground, please say "hi" to their MODERATOR, Indiana Green, who called for "Revolutionary Justice" and ask him to explain that. I sure would love to read the explanation.

They won't report on them, partly because they are on their side, but more because they are currently quite irrelevant. The only meaningful post I've seen there in the last year or so was the woman who advised some tough-talking Children In Black that she didn't think revolution was a very good idea since her "right wing" neighbors were far better armed than the libs.
>:)=

-Eric

[PJ-Comix]

Zippy The Pinhead was the only thing I read the online SF Gate website for.

Born in a satellite dish outside of Cincinnati, Ohio. Zippy makes yearly pilgramages to the Hostess Ding-Dong factory in New Jersey. His diet consists of corn nuts and polysorbate 80 followed by a dessert of yoghurt covered with taco sauce. His mother is a pizza waitress in Las Vegas. And his father is a truck driver by day and a writer for People magazine at night.

[RogueIsland]

Synopsis of article: We, the liberal media, have lost our monopoly on public opinion and it makes us uncomfortable.

[Kangaroo Court]

Most Americans do not trust the media. That is a fact reported by "respected" pollsters. This article is a testament to three truths. One, lack of original thought among so called reporters (this is not the first, second, or third such article we have seen). Two, the liberal media follows the DNC agenda. (They immediately went into the attack and defend mode when best selling books exposed their bias or FOX attempts to report fair and balanced. Yet, they continually promote the DNC agenda as is the case with this Gore/Daschele support rant. Thirdly, it proves that old saying "believe nothing that you read. . . "(The VRWC can so easily pick this article to pieces and there is no balance to the reporters bias.

[nicmarlo]

As long as the news media continues to report the results of an Internet poll as if it's news, the [DUmmy]ing of polls will continue to be a problem."

I think that's a more accurate statement.

[RogueIsland]

Well, I mean, let's just say the obvious: THERE ARE ALSO LIBERALS SPAMMING THE POLLS

What the article fails to understand is that online polls have no value as polls. They do have value as psychological warfare instruments. If your cause is soundly trounced in online poll after online poll by a dedicated and mobilized group (gun owners, Freepers, whatever), it will get to you and perhaps even demoralize you on some level. That's the value they hold.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

She's right -- there's nothing at all wrong with encouraging a group to vote in a poll. It's done all the time in political groups of every stripe.

Aw c'mon Joyce. Why don't you come right out and say it. The liberal weenies at the DemonRat sites do the same damn thing. Exactly the same...dang...thing.

[GodBlessRonaldReagan]

The only meaningful post I've seen there in the last year or so was the woman who advised some tough-talking Children In Black that she didn't think revolution was a very good idea since her "right wing" neighbors were far better armed than the libs.

ROTFLMAO!

[PJ-Comix]

If Ms Slaton had written an article even moderately favorable to the FR, all those "left-leaning" (as she describes them) groups in San Francisco would be demanding that she be terminated from the Chronicle for supporting a "right-wing" (not "right-leaning") website.

There is now a "Flush Rush" movement by the "left-leaning" (notice I avoid the term "left-wing" like Ms. Slaton) to toss Rush off the air. And where do we see a lot of "Flush Rush" sentiment. Why, on a certain "left-leaning" website mentioned by Ms. Slaton.

[PeaceBeWithYou]

Yep, it's a real stretch.

Another thing. I was on the Chuy's thread when the address was posted. I didn't see it, it was pulled almost before it was posted. IIRC, the poster wasn't banned until later because he kept posting a link to it and whining about it being pulled. And, I believe he even re-registered and did it again, yet I never saw it actually posted on FR, few outside of Jim did. All I ever saw was the link and that disappeared quickly.(Isn't that pretty close to how it was Jim?)

Anyhow, the real kicker of the whole thing is that the address stayed posted on the linked site, and is prolly still posted there, yet there are no complaints about that.

Stranger still. Allen, Pitt, etal. would have you to believe it stayed posted on FR for days, or weeks-not the seconds that it actually was.(And maybe they did attempt to do so, but only Jim knows for certain.)

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Shhhh. We hear you. It's too early in the morning for all that shouting.   =;^)

[Smile-n-Win]

Watch out. Joyce will actually take your tagline seriously and nod sadly about the "dangerous elements" in the FR.

...Proving yet another time that left-wingers have absolutely no sense of humor.

I think it's actually fun to watch them display how "amusement-impaired" they are...

[Pietro]

What this article fails to report are the real examples of FReeper strength. I point to the FReeps during the disputed 2000 election, primarily in Wash. and S. FLA, but even in frigid Pittsburgh there were several well attended FReeps downtown.

Also our energy during the impeachment of bj, I think, had a lot of influence of those proceedings.

I think this article underestimates the power of FReeperdom. It's an honor, to me, to be associated w/ such a great collection of Individuals.

[PJ-Comix]

Please forgive me for overlooking the most evident example of Ms Slaton's bias---In her own title: "FReep This -- How The Right Wing Is Making Itself Heard"

Sooooo Ms Slaton. How many times has the term "Left Wing" been used in a Chronicle headline?

[PJ-Comix]

Proving yet another time that left-wingers have absolutely no sense of humor.

No, no, no! You MUST take your cue from Ms Slaton. The term is "left-leaners." It is "left-leaners" who have absolutely no sense of humor.