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Two Students Had Oral Sex On Bus While Others Cheered (Massachusetts barf alert)
The Boston Globe ^ | Thu Jan 9, 9:39 AM ET | Karla Kingsley

Posted on 01/11/2003 8:10:00 AM PST by Xthe17th

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To: cubreporter
We will have morals once again when parents are once again parents to their children. When they teach them everything they can before they walk out that door to attend the first day of Kindergarten. When they teach them respect for law and order. When they teach them respect for their peers. When they teach them respect for their Teachers and YES, the school bus driver and yes, the school janitor and private property or the property belonging to the school and on and on and on.

You can say it, but O'Reilly can't?

41 posted on 01/11/2003 12:36:57 PM PST by Nephi (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: babylonian
Well, I'm pooped from talking about this. It all boils down to the parents and how and when they begin teaching their kids right from wrong. So, I say the Principal is NOT responsible...you say he/she is. I guess we could argue this all day long but...sometimes O'Reilly goes over the top with his arrogance. Don't get me wrong, I hope the kids get some kind of punishment and they should be expelled butto me, that's where it stops and SHOULD begin with the parents but I doubt that will happen so...no doubt about it but guess we just don't agree on what should be done.
42 posted on 01/11/2003 12:38:56 PM PST by cubreporter
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To: cubreporter
No, (I who am ALSO here at Free Republic want to see the end of the fed education system too) and NO, I do not see any benefit at all in highlighting instances of decay in that system!

Okay, Cluelessreporter.

HOWEVER, the school Principal was NOT responsible for the behavior of these two kids no matter WHAT O'Reilly says.

O'Reilly never said that - I watched the segment. O'Reilly's has said it is up to the principle to enforce standards of conduct and punish the kids involved. So far, the principle has refused.

43 posted on 01/11/2003 12:42:30 PM PST by Nephi (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Nephi
I didn't say O'Reilly can't say anything. I just disagreed with him.

He is entitled to say whatever he wants just like you and I can. My argument with him is the fact he is almost blaming the Principal who wasn't even there. I'm saying too we have to stop blaming others when something like this happens. The kids did it...they were responsible. Now they should answer to their parents (AFTER BEING EXPELLED)
44 posted on 01/11/2003 12:44:39 PM PST by cubreporter
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To: Nephi
Thank you for the name calling, was that really necessary? I didn't call you a name did I?

I thought we had some intelligent dialogue going here but since you resorted to calling me clueless reporter I guess we have nothing further to say here. I'm sorry felt you had to stoop to calling me a name...I didn't think our conversation was going that way.
45 posted on 01/11/2003 12:47:48 PM PST by cubreporter
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To: cubreporter
You thought wrong - you are incapable of having an intelligent dialogue. You are so conflicted you are irrational. Otherwise, explain the logic behind your "clueless" statement.
46 posted on 01/11/2003 12:51:09 PM PST by Nephi (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Nephi
Whatever.
47 posted on 01/11/2003 12:55:38 PM PST by cubreporter
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To: SamAdams76
Yeah, that reference raises a darn good question: Was it only the girl who was having sex here, according to that one abstruse dictionary that Clinton scoured the planet to find? Maybe the boy should sue because maybe he was just "passive"?
48 posted on 01/11/2003 1:08:37 PM PST by kcar
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To: Servant of the Nine
What's the problem?

No Problem- if you rationalize Bill Clinton style.

49 posted on 01/11/2003 1:19:06 PM PST by Minutemen
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To: Minutemen
What's the problem? No Problem- if you rationalize Bill Clinton style.

Bill Clinton? Was the girl employed by the guy? Was he in some sense "in loco parentis"? Was he married?

Teenagers and adults have been doing this since the beginning of time and yet this country was founded and has endured.

So9

50 posted on 01/11/2003 1:51:42 PM PST by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: Xthe17th
Very dangerous.

One bump and...

Since this could have been a safety problem, what was the driver doing while this was going on?

51 posted on 01/11/2003 3:18:44 PM PST by PeaceBeWithYou (We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail.)
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To: Servant of the Nine
"What's the problem?...This has been common for years in school parking lots all over the country."

No -- no problem.

Guess you wouldn't take anyone to task if it were your daughter in a back-of-the-public-school-bus "starring role," eh?

Crack open another warm beer dude...

52 posted on 01/11/2003 3:24:55 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: i_dont_chat
Even if the school is exemplary, consider the period of time your child spends on the bus, unsupervised, and the dangers your child is in during this period. It is up to you, the parents, to protect your child. You can't trust the school system. Also, never get lulled into a sense of safety about your children taking bus trips for special school activities. Same sort of things could happen. Either drive your child to the event, or don't let them go. It is up to you, the parents, to get your children safely to and from school.

You're right. I don't trust anything about the public school system - because I don't trust anything about the people who run it.

53 posted on 01/11/2003 3:41:39 PM PST by yendu bwam
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
umm... driving, one would think?
54 posted on 01/11/2003 3:58:06 PM PST by demosthenes the elder (non potestis me capere, sum homo gingibrati)
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To: F16Fighter
Guess you wouldn't take anyone to task if it were your daughter in a back-of-the-public-school-bus "starring role," eh?

Nope. I taught mine right from wrong, so that could never happen.

You are worrying about the behavior of White Trash.
There have always been Trash, there always will be. They still aren't important. They never will be unless you give them some importance by worryig about their behavior.

So9

55 posted on 01/11/2003 6:14:04 PM PST by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: Servant of the Nine
"You are worrying about the behavior of White Trash. There have always been Trash, there always will be. They still aren't important."

I presume you and your kids don't live in isolation somewhere in a cave?

What you apparently disregard is the fact that ALL kids are affected by one another. "White Trash" is chic, it's cool, and it's more tha acceptable these days -- as a matter of fact it's actually ruling teen culture now isn't it?

Moreover, would you like the most damning proof that "White Trash" and their "behavior" IS important?

Might you recall the name William Jefferson Clinton?

56 posted on 01/11/2003 7:14:27 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Servant of the Nine
Teenagers and adults have been doing this since the beginning of time

Say what??? Are your teens doing this on the school bus? Mine aren't. I think you got this bulletin board mixed up with High Times or Klinton Kountry.

57 posted on 01/11/2003 9:03:43 PM PST by Minutemen
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To: Nephi
do you see any benefit in highlighting instances of decay in that system?

Not in O'Reilly sensationalizing this story for his own benefit. IMHO, I don't think homeschooling is the answer for everyone. If that is your choice, so be it.

I went to a Catholic school, kindergarten thru my senior year. I was schocked in my junior year, at the goodie two shoe girls getting it on with the boys in the back of cars at a party after the prom.

I have 3 children all attended and graduated public schools, my last one will be graduating in May from a medical magnet public school with honors. My last graduated from Keller High and is now a staff sargeant in the U.S. Army. My middle one has a management position at Mary Kay.

At our home morality and a love of education is taught and practised.Participation in our children's lives and activities.

Public, private, or home schooling is not the issue here. Parents teaching morality is one of the issues here. The girl that I spoke of in my previous post, her and her mother are very active in their church, however this girl is totally out of control. She has no respect for any adults, not even for her mother. I chaperoned a band trip a couple of years ago, which was her freshman year. When she got on the bus, she started cursing, started creating problems with the other band members, and like I said,no respect for any adults. Pyschological help may be the answer for some of these children.

But once again Bill O'Reilly's sensationalization of this indecent activity is not the answer and some things are not national news worthy.

Home school may be good for some,but not for all. Remember Andrea Yates.

58 posted on 01/13/2003 10:20:43 AM PST by TexKat
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To: Xthe17th
I just heard on the Glen Beck program that two teens forced a 4-year-old little boy to give them oral sex as the little child was walking to school. I'm literally nauseous and horrified at such a thing. Just yesterday my kids brought us a note home from school that three or four hispanic males in a van tried to coerce some girls into their van while they waited at their bus stop. We are at war in America...
59 posted on 01/15/2003 8:23:40 AM PST by Frapster
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Search engine works fine on words four letters or longer, as designed. You have to be intelligent enough to use it properly. It's like complaining about things not working in the o-f-f position. Time for you to learn a few things and to stop shouting.

Thank you...

60 posted on 01/15/2003 8:26:05 AM PST by TomServo
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