I'm Sad for Our Nation [Truly]

to your #59:

It (Statue of Liberty) has caused more misinterpritation of our constitution and what America is about than anything else.

Not to be contentious, but it isn't the statue that did this.

It was that danged poem by Ms.Emma Lazarus that some misguided skull full of mush stuck on the statue.

You know, the poem which starts "Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to breathe free....".

That alleged poetry has caused the constitutional misinterpretation.

We ain't gonna let the French ~~surrender~~ be French Givers and take back our statue, no matter what DPL (obviously a DU type) says.

I'm confused - how can Bush be a both a moron and the genius source of all evil?

Did you forget your meds today?

Loooooooooooooooooser!!!

So, tell us about clinton's legacy - you know, the World Trade Center, the attack on the Pentagon. Or how about what he did in Somalia - sending in our troops without proper support, because it wasn't the politically correct thing to do.

As of right now, you live within the borders of the world's only true superpower. But you know - Delta has flights leaving every day - feel free to hop one to France.

Wow... you're still here, and posting a little bit... that's more grit than most disruptors show. How about answering a few substantive questions, if you would.

First, what happened on November 19th to get you so sad? (What year, BTW?)
Second, what makes the President and "Cheney on down" qualify as "evil"? Have they barbecued any children (a la Reno)? Have they sold nuclear reactors to militant nations like North Korea? Have they used mustard gas against American citizens (a la Saddam)? (HINT: Pick the right issues, and you'll find many FReepers agreeing with you... but those issues are probably WAY too far to the Right for you to bring up)
Third, did you forget to mention the we beat the Soviet Union without firing a shot thanks to the brilliance of Ronald Reagan (outspending them on weapons build-ups rather than making them out-bleed us on the battlefield)
Fourth, specifically what Liberties do you see as now "lost"? If you wanted to run with that "lost Liberty" idea, you'll find many supporters here. As far as I'm concerned, Amendments #2, 4, 9, and 10 are all in serious danger, if not gone. The 16th basically negates the 13th (involuntary servitude). Give it a shot, you might get lucky!
Fifth, why do you think the Democrats have "collapsed"? Last I saw, they still had more than 45% of the elected offices nationwide. You are aware, aren't you, that the GOP was in the very position the Dems are now in for most of the 20th Century, and they survived it just fine, thankyouverymuch.
Finally, "those traitor Democrats" you refer to (is that the Nov. 19th reference?) are nothing new. While Jim Jeffords (who I notice you don't mention as a traitor) was one of the rare GOP-to-Dem switchers, most of the switches in the past century have been Dem-to-GOP... care to venture some guesses why this is?

Or over the destruction of Americans dieing in foreign wars.

Are you going to enlighten us with what catastrophic event happened on November 19, yet?

While on the subject of dates, perhaps you'd like to turn to the ever trusty Google and plug in September 11, 2001. Then get back to us about Americans dying and the subject of war. 'K?

"Or over the destruction of Americans dieing in foreign wars."

WWI-Wilson (D) (won)
WWII-Roosevelt (D) (won)
Korean War-Truman (D) (tied)
Vietnam War-Kennedy/Johnson (D) (tied)

So, except for Grenada, Panama, and Gulf War I (all wins), all of the wars in the 20th Century have been started on the Democratic watch.

I notice that you didn't say anything about our entry into the Bosnian/Kosovo conflicts ... did you have a problem with our being involved in those under Clinton?

Time to dial up those meds, partner

Dial up? Heck no - he's already overdosing. I suggest shock therapy. Here - this should shock him:

HEY, DPL! The democrats lost! People who care about the country are now in charge!!

I am still on my coffee break.

Done yet? 'Cause it's almost time for the morning smoke break. :)

If he won't, I will:

Clinton's SEVENTY TWO Violations of the UNITED STATES CODE

No Less Than SEVENTY TWO Violations of the UNITED STATES CODE:

The President of the United States, William Jefferson Clinton, is both responsible for his own personal acts in office and for those appointed by him when he appears to tolerate the misconduct of others under his governance. When apologists for gross injustice insist that the American people are unable to offer "specifics" of laws which appear to have been violated by the President's administration, the People respectfully submit the following references, publicly known which involve:

Bribery, Graft, Conflict of Interest and Other Violations of Public Trust:

(18 USC 3), Accessories After the Fact. The White House knowingly comforted and/or otherwise hindered apprehension of those who violated campaign funding laws, some of whom have evidently fled to foreign countries.

(18 USC 4), Misprison of Felony (Having knowledge of, and approving, numorous felonies committed by his staff in the White House, i.e. the raiding of Vince Foster's office after his death, the illegal solicitation of political funds by Gore and others, etc.)

(18 USC 13), Assimilative Crimes Act (Actions and practices promoting anti-competitive combinations in violation of the appropriate anti-trust statutes).

(18 USC 201(b)) Offering A Bribe (Hush money to Webb Hubbell)

(18 USC 201(c)), Seeking or Accepting A Bribe, and (18 USC 1957), Hobbs Act (Though Maggie Williams and others, Clinton and DNC sought and received millions of dollars from Shady contributors like Charlie Trie, Wang Jun, Jonny Chung, Pauline Kanchanalak, and many others in exchange for policy decisions favorable to their business interests in Asia.)

(18 USC 201(d)), Offering a Bribe to a Witness (Hush money to Webb Hubbell)

(18 USC 201 (e)), Seeking or Accepting a Bribe as a Witness (Whitewater, Cattlegate)

(18 USC 201(f)), Offering Gratuities or Graft to a Public Official (Hush money to Webb Hubbell)

(18 USC 201(g)), Soliciting or Accepting Illegal Gratuities (Vice President Gore)

(18 USC 201(h)) Offering Gratuities to a Witness (Hush money to Webb Hubbell)

(18 USC 201(a)) Seeking or Accepting Illegal Compensation (The White House's campaign through the media to obtain donations to "legal defense" slush funds)

(18 USC 203(b) Offering Illegal Compensation to a Government Employee (The White House creation of "legal defense" slush funds)

(18 USC 205) Illegal Activities in Connection With Claims (Whitewater affair)

(18 USC 207 (a)) Conflict of Interest by Former Employees (Webb Hubbell taking large pay-offs from special interests with ties to US agencies.)

(18 USC 207 (g)) Illegal Activities by Partners of Federal Officers (First Lady actions in the Heath Care "reform" process banning the publicfrom meetings and participation provided under the Sunshine Act, and the Administrative Procedures Act.)

(18 USC 208(a)) Acts Affecting a Personal Financial Interest (Whitewater, interference with RTC investigations).

(18 USC 209(a) Receiving Dual Compensation (Clinton "Legal Defense" Funds)

18 USC 210) Offering to Procure an Appointive Public Office (The Clinton reelection campaign, indicated its readiness to make government appointments based upon non-merit factors of race, gender, and national original as part of a scheme to obtain votes).

(18 USC 211) Soliciting to Obtain Appointive Public Office (The Clinton reelection campaign, indicated its readiness to make government appointments based upon non-merit factors of race, gender, and national origin as part of a scheme to obtain votes).

(18 USC 211) Accepting a Fee for Federal Employment (The Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee appointed ambassadors and others based upon the monetary ("soft money") contributions made by the nominee. i.e. M. Larry Lawrence, Mr. Hormel, etc.)

(18 USC 371) Conspiracy to commit any offense against the United States (i.e. all the felonious "foreign" fundraising from White House property.)

(18 USC 607) Use of a public building to solicit political funds. (Vice President Gore, and possibly others, abused the public trust by political hawking from the White House. President Clinton urged political fund-raisers to offer the Lincoln bed-room as a prize for contributions).

(18 USC 1905) Disclosure of Confidential Information (Cronies of the White House carried government secrets to foreign interests).

(18 USC 1916(1)) Unauthorized Employment (Persons such as Roger Altman, a disgraced Treasury Department official, where "'hidden" in White House jobs permitting them to receive public compensation while performing private, and personal agendas and John Huang, who recieved a dubious security clearance and held a top-level post at the Commerce Department.)

Theft, Loss, Misuse or Wrongful Disposition of Government Property:

(18 USC 641) Larceny of Government Property (The unaccounted for disappearance of public papers from the office of Vincent Foster following his unexplained death).

(18 USC 643) Failure to Account for Public Money (The task forces and advisory committees on health care).

(18 USC 641) Receiving or Concealing Stolen Government Property (Documents were hidden in the White House which belong to government agencies and investigators).

(18 USC 643) Failure to Deposit Federal Monies (Moneys received for renting rooms in the White House were not deposited in the US Treasury).

(18 USC 648) Misuse of Public Funds by Custodians (The use of public funds to employ persons who perform non-public duties, such as political advance men, legal staff used to obstruct justice, and public relations).

(18 USC 654) Conversion by Federal Officers or employees (Taking the funds received for use of Federal property and failing to deposit them in the Treasury, as required by law).

(18 USC 663) Wrongful Solicitation or Embezzlement or Gifts (Receiving political campaigns in the White House. Solicitation and acceptance of "home owner's" insurance payments which appear to be gifts from a powerful industry. No other example of the payment of such a "claim" could be found by experts in home owners insurance.)

(18 USC 1719) Misuse of Franking Privilege (Its use by non-governmental officials at the White House and questionable mailings during the reelection campaign season).

(18 USC 2314) Interstate Transportation of Stolen Property. (Documents taken from the Rose Law Firm in Arkansas and transported to the District of Columbia).

Racketeer Influence and Corrupt Practices:

(18 USC 1962(a)) Investing Racketeering Income (Vincent Foster trips to various off-shore banking facilities).

(18 USC 1962(b)) Acquiring an Enterprise Through Racketeering (Whitewater, Castle Grande, Clinton "Legal Defense" Fund, etc.)

(18 USC 1962(c)) Engaging In Racketeering (also Stephanopolis' Nation's Bank real estate grab, etc.).

(18 USC 1962(d)) Conspiracy to Engage in Racketeering (Whitewater, Castle Grande, Clinton "Legal Defense" Fund, Cattlegate cover-up).

False Claims, Contract Frauds, and Related Offenses:

(31 USC 1341(a)) Obligating in Excess of Specific Appropriations (Health Care Task Force activities.)

(31 USC 1342) Wrongfully Accepting Voluntary Service (John Huang fund-raising episode).

(31 USC 1517(a) Obligating in Excess of an Apportionment (Health Care Task forces).

(18 USC 443) Wrongful Destruction of War Records (Destruction of Federal records at the universities in Arkansas regarding Mr. Clinton's shameful evasion of military service).

(18 USC 874) Receiving Kickbacks from Public Works Employees (Certain labor union political funds gathered on behalf of the Clinton administration).

(18 USC 51, 54 Taking Illegal Kickbacks (Clinton "Legal Defense" Fund).

(15 USC 1) Contracts and Conspiracies in Restraint of Trade (Secretary of Commerce and Secretary of Agriculture and Transportation busily promoting private companies, even selling seats on business trips in official aircraft.)

Obstructions of Justice:

(18 USC 1503) Influencing or Injuring Officers, Jurors, or Witnesses (Employees of the White House were intentionally set up by the FBI, forced to undergo public defamation, suffer enormous expense. The President failed to see that justice be done to the perpetrators of these vile, cowardly and heinous outrages).

(18 USC 1505) Obstruct o an Agency Proceedings (Interference in the RTC investigations and the FBI Foster investigation).

(18 USC 1510) Obstruction of Criminal Investigations (White House actions under the supervision of the President involving the disappearance of evidence, tampering with a homicide investigation, failure to cooperate, providing false and misleading statements in the matter of the death of Mr. Vincent Foster, and Obstructing Ken Starr's investigation as related to Monica Lewinsky and other women.)

(18 USC 1512(a)) Threatening Victims, Witnesses or Informants (Attempts to interfere with the actions of Congress in reimbursing the White Travel Staff for their legal expenses, and Pressuring Monica Lewinsky to Lie Under Oath.)

(18 USC 1512(b)) Harassing Victims, Witnesses, or Informants (Actions against the victim Paula Jones to obstruct her access to justice).

(18 USC 1513 Retaliating Against Victims, Witnesses,. or Informants (The sole purpose of the Clinton "Legal Defense" Fund appears to have been to smear, oppress and injure Mr. Clinton's victims particularly so as to deny them the exercise of their rights as victims seeking justice and redress of grievances).

Perjury, Fraud, and False Statements:

(18 USC 494) Falsely Making, Alerting or Forging a Public Record (The arbitrary persecution and defamation of the White House Travel employees).

(18 USC 494) Uttering or Publishing a False Public Record (Few official statements of the President would appear to be fully truthful).

(18 USC 494) Transmitting a False Record to the United States (Papers made available to the FBI in the Vincent Foster investigation were incomplete in spite of assurances that the White House would fully cooperate with law enforcement investigations).

(18 USC 494) Falsely Making, Altering or Forging a Document (Clinton income tax-returns indicate factual discrepancies. Clinton fails to report donation he receives for "Legal Defense," though any other citizen would have to report such income for tax purposes).

(18 USC 495) Uttering or Publishing a False Writing (Repeatedly the reports by the White House in response to inquiries and disclosures resulting from the work of Independent Counsels have been proven false, misleading or deceptive).

(18 USC 495) Using a False Writing (Cover-up "ethics" statements issued by the White House counsel).

(18 USC 643) Concealing or Covering Up of Material Fact (Documents found in the White House which had not been produced in spite of a lawful subpoena).

(18 USC 1001) Making or Using False Statements (Statements regarding various scandals; Cattlegate, Webb Hubbell, Paula Jones Deposition, etc.).

(18 USC 1002) Possession of False Papers (FBI frameup documents of White House Travel employees).

(18 USC 1016) False acknowledgment (Response to the subpoena by investigator agencies failing to disclose that documents were being retained unlawfully).

(18 USC 1341) Mail Fraud (Fund raising by the White House under various pretexts, disguised as "non-partisan" activity).

(18 USC 1343) Wire Fraud (The use of the White House fax machines to promote oil and gas schemes by the Tung gang).

(18 USC 1621) Perjury (Testimony in the Paula Jones, Vincent Foster matters, Monica Lewinsky Affair).

(18 USC 1622) Subornation of Perjury (Webb Hubbell, Monica Lewinsky Affair, and others)

(18 USC 1623) False Declaration before a Court *Clinton's close testimony in Whitewater related trials).

(18 USC 2071(a)) Tampering with Public Records (As Attorney General of Arkansas, Mr. Clinton's office obtained Federal military records from an ROTC officer in Arkansas. These records have never been returned to United States custody).

(18 USC 2071(b)) Wrongful Handling of Public Documents (Documents "misplaced" in the White House. Secret documents provided to political fund raisers, etc.)

(18 USC 2073) Making False Entries in Public Accounts (The misappropriation of US property to facilitate political party and campaign activity).

(18 USC 2314) Interstate Transportation to Defraud (Unlawful campaign fund solicitations and activities performed under the guise of "official business."

(5 USC 552) Privacy Act of 1974 (Clinton officials Craig Livingstone and Anthony Marceca illegally possessing and disclosing thousands of FBI files or former goverment employees and private citizens.

Relevant Violations of DC Law

(DC Code 22-1112) Indecent Exposure & Lewd Proposal---Kathleen Willey, Monica Lewinksy, et. al.

(DC Code 22-4106) Misdemeanor Sexual Assault---Kathleen Willey, Monica Lewinsky, et. al.

Look in my eyes...do you see anyone who gives a _________???

Oh, come on - you know how it works - if a liberal doesn't like a law, he can just ignore it or declare it unconstitutional without the benefit of the court (re: Phil Bredesen in the recent Tennessee election). It's in their social contract.

BTW, liberals are not automatically banned here. Show some intelligence in your responses, and a willingness to debate honestly and politely and you might educate us silly Right-wingers.

Of course, you're already getting flamed heavily so avoiding rudeness can be demanding... I'm just saying that, if you want, you are invited to stick around and continue posting your thoughts... your Democratic laments are most welcome, as you can see! ;^)

What could a liberal possibly have to be proud of? A more reasonable name would be something like: "Damned embarrassedTOcallmyselfAliberalProudlybecomingAconservative."

We are proud of our President George W. Bush and the election wasn't stolen, If it had been stolen, Forrest Gore would be President.

I will be careful next time to apply the correct term to describe these idiots.

The fact that Beezebubba and Hildebeast are still walking the streets proves your assertion to be correct. Can you imagine how much time we would do if you or I committed those crimes?

I am really disappointed he didn't mention Gondawaland in the original post.

Awesome post Skooz.

I'd be under the jail. But then again, I think that you and I would be the kind of folks to take responsibility for our actions and/or inactions - unlike the libs that prefer to lay the blame at someone else's feet.

This truly began with the stolen election of 2000.

And after you research your dates, perhaps you can entertain us with the tale of how the election was "stolen". Perhaps you are of the view that votes cast for George W. Bush are illegitimate "just because"?

Clearly "proud liberals" do not consider voters who cast their votes for Republicans to be legitimate. Naturally, this view is shameful and disgusting.