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Archaeologists Announce Discovery Of Underwater Man-Made Wall (Very Old)
China Post ^ | 11-26-2002

Posted on 11/26/2002 7:57:18 AM PST by blam

Archaeologists announce discovery of underwater man-made wall

2002/11/26
The China Post staff

Underwater archaeologists yesterday announced the discovery of a man-made wall submerged under the waters of the Pescadores Islands that could be at least six and seven thousand years old.

Steve Shieh, the head of the planning committee for the Taiwan Underwater Archaeology Institute, said the wall was discovered to the northwest of Tong-chi Island in the Pescadores towards the end of September.

The stone wall, with an average height of one meter and a width of 50 centimeters, covers a distance of over 100 meters, Hsieh said.

The wall ran along the ocean floor at depths of between 25 and 30 meters, he added.

Shieh said that divers found several places along the wall where holes were apparently filled up with pebbles, possibly in an attempt to block winds.(Maybe to keep out the rising water?)

The wall was located by a team of divers working in cooperation with the National Museum of History and the Department of Environmental Sciences at the National Sun Yat-sen University.

In August, researchers scanning waters in the area with sonar discovered what appeared to be the remnants of four to five man-made walls running along the bottom of the sea.

Please see WALL on page(I could not find a map, if you can, please post it.)

Despite difficult diving conditions, Shieh said that a team of more than ten specialists was able to ascertain the positions of at least three of the wall sections.

The proximity of the wall to a similar structure found in 1976 suggests that it may be further evidence of a pre-historical civilization.

A three meter high underwater wall was discovered by amateur divers in waters off the nearby Hu-ching (Tiger Well) Island.

British archaeologists examined the find and proclaimed that the wall was probably made between 7,000 and 12,000 years ago.

The current find stands a mere 100 meters from the site of that discovery.

Six years ago, evidence of a sunken city in the area was found when amateur divers found the remains of what appear to be city walls taking the shape of a cross on the ocean floor.

Further examination suggested the ruins were made between seven and ten thousand years ago as well, although Japanese researchers put the walls construction at between 10,000 and 80,000 years ago.

Taken together, the discoveries have helped to overturn the established notion that Taiwan's earliest aboriginal inhabitants made their way here from mainland China some 6,000 years ago.(There goes the giant hynea theory, huh?)

The underwater finds are part of a growing body of evidence suggesting the existence of civilizations older than anything previously imagined.(suprise, suprise, suprise--Gomer Pyle voice)

On this theory, entire cities ended up underwater after sea levels rose towards the end of the last Ice Age, a date cited by Plato as being some 9,600 years ago.

One of the most dramatic examples of evidence of civilizations found on ocean beds has been megalithic structures off the coast of Yonaguni-jima in Japan that have been interpreted in some circles as being built for sacrificial rites. According to Shieh, a similar structure has been located off of the shores of Taiwan's Pingtung County .

Shieh said that he and his association have plans to explore that location as well as what appears to be a man-made path on the ocean floor off of Taitung County sometime next year.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeologists; archaeology; catastrophism; discovery; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; pescadoresislands; taiwan; underwater; wall
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To: LostTribe
I am answering you in FReepMail.
121 posted on 11/27/2002 8:04:02 AM PST by JudyB1938
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To: LostTribe
"No, but 2 out of 3 is not bad. {ggg}."

I thought that everyone knew you were 6'2". (Ahem)

122 posted on 11/27/2002 8:24:58 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
>I thought that everyone knew you were 6'2". (Ahem)

Let's just say I hope to keep growing, and leave it at that. {ggg}.

123 posted on 11/27/2002 9:18:23 AM PST by LostTribe
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To: blam
Thanks for the ping ...
124 posted on 11/27/2002 9:24:34 AM PST by manna
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To: blam; LostTribe
Funny, that dosn't look like 6' 2" to me:


125 posted on 11/27/2002 9:39:41 AM PST by PaulKersey
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To: PaulKersey; LostTribe
"Funny, that dosn't look like 6' 2" to me:"

My mother always said: "Be nice every chance you get"

126 posted on 11/27/2002 10:01:45 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
Maybe but, you're now into the million+ year range. Africa and South America began to split 120 million years ago. (as an example)

No, I'm not talking about plate tectonics, I'm talking about crustal displacement. The entire crust moves at once. The ancient Egyptians claim that they're the oldest civilization because they've observed three of these movements. At the same time of Joshua where the bible says the sun didn't set for a whole day, the ancient inhabitants of Mexico (being on the other side of the planet) said the sun didn't rise for a whole day and through the night they guessed where it would rise (apparently this had happened in their history before), the ones that guessed what is presently the east were correct.

127 posted on 11/27/2002 10:10:31 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: blam
I saw those, probably cut into a pre-existing natural structure before it flooded.

But done by humans, contrary to what Schott said.

128 posted on 11/27/2002 10:11:33 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
I' ve read all this stuff time and again. Now, I'm one to believe 'where there's smoke, there's fire,' but, I just can't get serious about this explanation.
129 posted on 11/27/2002 10:23:06 AM PST by blam
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To: #3Fan
"But done by humans, contrary to what Schott said."

Schott said that IF any of the features were done by humans, it was done to an already existing natural structure before it went below the waves.
He also said, "If you find anything other than what I've already been shown, I'll be on the first plane back." (...or something close to that)

I wasn't impressed with anything I saw until I saw the large carved human faces on those huge structures. Those got my attention. (I immediately thought of Mt Rushmore)

130 posted on 11/27/2002 10:33:26 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
I' ve read all this stuff time and again. Now, I'm one to believe 'where there's smoke, there's fire,' but, I just can't get serious about this explanation.

Do you take Einstein seriously?

"In a polar region there is a continual deposition of ice, which is not symmetrically distributed about the pole. The earth's rotation acts on these unsymmetrically deposited masses [of ice], and produces centrifugal momentum that is transmitted to the rigid crust of the earth. The constantly increasing centrifugal momentum produced in this way will, when it has reached a certain point, produce a movement of the earth's crust over the rest of the earth's body, and this will displace the polar regions toward the equator."

- Albert Einstein From The Path of the Pole by Charles Hapgood.

Einstein also stated:

"In a polar region there is continual deposition of ice, which is not symmetrically distributed about the pole. The earth's rotation acts on these unsymmetrically deposited masses, and produces centrifugal momentum that is transmitted to the rigid crust of the earth. The constantly increasing centrifugal momentum produced in this way will, when it has reached a certain point, produce a movement of the earth's crust over the rest of the earth's body."

131 posted on 11/27/2002 10:46:16 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: blam
Schott said that IF any of the features were done by humans, it was done to an already existing natural structure before it went below the waves.

LOL Obviously. No one is claiming ancient scuba divers did it.

He also said, "If you find anything other than what I've already been shown, I'll be on the first plane back." (...or something close to that) I wasn't impressed with anything I saw until I saw the large carved human faces on those huge structures. Those got my attention. (I immediately thought of Mt Rushmore)

It's unfortunate that Schott made his statements right before the faces were photographed. He wouldn't say the same thing now, that's for sure.

132 posted on 11/27/2002 10:49:42 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
260 cubic miles of ice collecting on the South pole per year. A lot of weight not perfectly balanced. :^)
133 posted on 11/27/2002 10:51:40 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: blam
Bump
134 posted on 11/27/2002 10:56:09 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: blam
Schott said that IF any of the features were done by humans, it was done to an already existing natural structure before it went below the waves.

Let me expand on this. Schott said he thought that any human-carved features would've been done to an already existing structure. Yet isn't the claim that the high underwater currents of that region created the structure? So it wouldn't have been created until the structure went underwater. Why would humans carve faces on something that didn't exist yet? And we know they didn't wait until it went underwater. And if the faces were carved, then the structure went underwater to be "finished" by the currents, why did the currents leave the faces intact? So if there has been only one ocean-rising event, then the whole structure was above water and made by humans. Humans may have used the natural grain of the structure to make their stages, but the ocean currents did not do it. The faces prove it.

135 posted on 11/27/2002 11:04:49 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: LostTribe
A hundred years later, this "lost" Northern Kingdom of Israel with now over 6 Million Israelites helped the Medes and Persians overthrow the Assyrians, then escaped north through the Caucasus Mountains and around the Black and Caspian Seas, to explode into history ~610 BC as The Celts.

Meantime, their language had changed from Semitic in family to Indoeuropean, which is difficult enough to understand given that their Assyrian captors were themselves Semitic. Celtic is also on a rather different branch from the Persian flavor of Indoeuropean. Therefore, it's hard to see what a Lost Tribe of Israel with the history you relate is doing speaking it.

136 posted on 11/27/2002 11:07:40 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: #3Fan
"It's unfortunate that Schott made his statements right before the faces were photographed. He wouldn't say the same thing now, that's for sure."

I noticed that too.

I'll give more thought to crustal plate (rapid) movement theory. I'm still a skeptic though.

137 posted on 11/27/2002 11:13:54 AM PST by blam
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To: #3Fan
"Yet isn't the claim that the high underwater currents of that region created the structure? "

Nope, the water didn't do anything. Didn't you see the exact same structures on land nearby? The structures were above water, the humans rearranged and carved some faces on them, then, the oceans rose and covered them. (it's that simple)

138 posted on 11/27/2002 11:18:15 AM PST by blam
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To: #3Fan; blam
260 cubic miles of ice collecting on the South pole per year. A lot of weight not perfectly balanced. :^)

I'm thinking of the washing machine, when you have clothes in the 'spin' cycle and there's a pair of jeans wadded up on one side.

The 'clunk clunk clunk' you can hear from the other side of the house caused by the imbalance.

As I see it, this *has* to happen to a spinning ball like the Earth as ice builds up. And computers should be able to give some very good ideas as to the how, when, where.

The one big question to me is, what about the acceleration from such a momentum change? Wouldn't that destroy all buildings, throw people miles, etc?

We now know 'gravity' is actually curvature of the 'fabric' of the universe. Is it possible something about gravity prevents us from such acceleration changes outside our slice of 'space/time'?

139 posted on 11/27/2002 11:35:11 AM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr
"Wouldn't that destroy all buildings, throw people miles, etc? "

That's what I was thinking, not to mention that movement like that would cause the world's oceans to 'slosh' over all the land masses on earth and destroy and kill everything.

It would explain a worldwide flood though.

But, I'm still thinkin'.

140 posted on 11/27/2002 11:43:03 AM PST by blam
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