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Cast official vote; let others ‘Freep’
The Exponent online ^ | 10-14-2002 | Editorial

Posted on 10/15/2002 10:28:39 AM PDT by Lx

Cast official vote; let others ‘Freep’

The United States should declare war against Iraq.

That’s what most Americans think, according to the majority of opinion polls taken on the subject.

A Gallup poll released last week suggests 53 percent of Americans favor a U.S.-led ground invasion of Iraq. The Exponent online opinion poll from Oct. 8 showed that 72 percent of Exponent readers support a war in Iraq.

But there’s just one problem — these are opinion polls and they don’t mean a thing. And depending on how they are interpreted, they can mean anything.

A Harris opinion poll released last week showed 49 percent of Americans think the United States should take military action against Iraq. But of that 49 percent, only 39 percent (19 percent of all adults) favor attacking Iraq if Saddam Hussein allows weapons inspectors to return.

But even after you decipher what the polls are saying, you still have to wonder about their credibility.

The Exponent’s online poll is a prime example of this. Ever since we started the poll in mid-September the response has been fairly steady. Depending on the subject we usually receive about 100 to 250 votes per day — unless the subject is Iraq.

Twice in the last month we have asked questions concerning America’s involvement with a war in Iraq. For the first Iraq question, "Do you think the U.S. should attack Iraq?" we received 521 votes. The second question we asked, "Do you think President Bush has adequately explained why the U.S. should attack Iraq?" received 402 responses.

Of course you can argue that the first poll received so many votes because it was posted on the weekend and was up for three days as opposed to one, but our other weekend poles still averaged only 250 votes. Or you could argue people truly care about America going to war with Iraq and want to voice their opinions on the subject.

That’s what I thought, too — then I learned about the "Freep."

"Freeping," I have learned, is a term used by members of FreeRepublic.com — a Web site that labels itself as being on the front line of conservative activism. "Freeping" is basically the practice of logging on to various Web sites and voting for issues that the Freepers deem important.

The way it works is that one member will stumble upon a Web poll and will then post a link to that Web poll on the FreeRepublic Web site asking members to vote a certain way on a certain issue. Both questions The Exponent has asked about Iraq have been Freeped.

Of course, the Freepers are doing nothing illegal — I just find it completely pathetic. Even more pitiful are the messages posted along with the request to "Freep."

"The liberal university wackos (sic) are currently winning.... Freep them good," was posted by Freeper "Sword of Gideon."

The only question I have is, winning what? It’s a freaking opinion poll — yes, I support your right to think whatever you want to think, but this isn’t a competition. What the heck do you want to win?

But winning aside, some of the posts just make me laugh.

"Every poll I’ve seen in the past few days on the Internet is showing President Bush has done a good job explaining about war against Iraq. Don’t hear them repeated due to the results...KEEP FREEPING!" was posted by alert Freeper "TatieBug."

I just have one question for Ms. (or is it Mr.?) Bug — why do you think no one publishes the results of those online polls you "Freep"? Is it because of some deep, dark liberal media conspiracy? Or is it because you so skew the results that the polls no longer matter? I’d be willing to bet that it’s the latter, but that’s probably just my media-biased liberalness talking.

I guess what I’m really trying to say is that opinion polls don’t matter. Regardless of how they are conducted, regardless of how scientific these polls are, regardless of how the numbers are represented, opinion polls ultimately mean nothing.

But voting does.

Voting is the true American opinion poll. It’s a tragedy that so many politicians today rely on the opinion polls to formulate policy. It’s a mockery of more than 200 years of democratic rule that today’s politicians check their standings in the polls daily. It’s shameful that we allow these fence-sitting, conscienceless "leaders" stay in office.

Whatever your stance on whatever issue you have, voting is the only way your voice will truly be heard — regardless of how many polls you "Freep."

If you’re mad at or disagree with the politicians in office — don’t vote for them when election times roll around. If you like the people in office and the decisions they’ve made or might make, reelect them. If you didn’t vote, then be happy with the way things are.

The ballot box is the only opinion poll that means anything — I appreciate you voting on The Exponent’s poll, but the country will benefit more if you vote in November.

Dave Stephens is a senior in the School of Agriculture. He can be reached via e-mail at editor@purdueexponent.org.


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Well well well, someone whining about poll freeping. No mention of the other side, though.
1 posted on 10/15/2002 10:28:40 AM PDT by Lx
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To: Sword_of_Gideon
ping
2 posted on 10/15/2002 10:35:21 AM PDT by rface
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To: Lx
why do you think no one publishes the results of those online polls you "Freep"? Is it because of some deep, dark liberal media conspiracy? Or is it because you so skew the results that the polls no longer matter?

Maybe it's because all the unscientific polls like this are crap (along with many of the "scientific" ones), but that wouldn't stop the media from publishing them as gospel truth if the results are skewed the way they want them.

They would gladly publish a poll which said that 90% of the respondents thought that X42 was the best president ever, even if the results were from James Carville's web site.

3 posted on 10/15/2002 10:36:28 AM PDT by KarlInOhio
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To: TatieBug
ping
4 posted on 10/15/2002 10:37:27 AM PDT by rface
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To: Lx
The ballot box is the only opinion poll that means anything — I appreciate you voting on The Exponent’s poll, but the country will benefit more if you vote in November.

Well, you're right. And guess what, us FREEPERS are what you would call LIKELY voters. Don't worry. We'll be at the polls in force come Nov 5.

By the way, if your online polls are meaningless, why do you run them? They do influence public perceptions of the issues and the support various issues receive. FREEPING is a great way to sway that perception the right direction.

5 posted on 10/15/2002 10:38:06 AM PDT by ffrancone
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To: Lx
I agree that on-line poll freeping is, as they said in Animal House, "a truly stupid and futile gesture."

But if it gets your aggies out, I don't have a serious problem with it.
6 posted on 10/15/2002 10:46:22 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Lx
whining about poll freeping.

I suspect that Dave's largest irritation was that he was unable to maneuver the results that he wanted and then would have used in a poll that would be "important and meaningful" but for the Freepers. Too bad (sniff, sniff)

7 posted on 10/15/2002 10:57:01 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Lx
"Freeping," I have learned, is a term used by members of FreeRepublic.com - a Web site that labels itself as being on the front line of conservative activism. "Freeping" is basically the practice of logging on to various Web sites and voting for issues that the Freepers deem important.

In two years of FR participation (and poll FReeps!) I don't ever recall being told how to vote in any particular poll. Furthermore, no one is stopping the opposition from reading about any poll FReep and countering. The only reason this twit is complaining, is because we are successful in tilting polls in favor of conservative issues.

8 posted on 10/15/2002 10:57:06 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: ffrancone
That might be one of the things they're worried about. The funny thing id that I found the article on du. The funny thing is they do the same thing and that's OK. They also think the impeached Clinton is the big dog. I prefer to think he's the big dog-sh*t.


9 posted on 10/15/2002 10:58:55 AM PDT by Lx
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To: Lx
Wow, proof reading is your friend. I see everything twice! How about:

That might be one of the things they're worried about. The best part is that I found the article on du where they do the same thing and that's OK. They also think the impeached Clinton is the big dog. I prefer to think he's the big
dog-sh*t.
10 posted on 10/15/2002 11:02:13 AM PDT by Lx
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To: Lx
You can bet if they were'nt Freeped, or if they were DUh!ed, they'd be shouting "look at these poll results!" So Freep on...

Note to David Stephens... Plant the chickens with their heads sticking OUT of the ground...

11 posted on 10/15/2002 11:02:28 AM PDT by Axenolith
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To: Lx
they think the impeached Clinton is the big dog

Actually, that's quite an adequate description.
What are dogs interested in?
Eating, humping, and peeing on things.
Adequate description of Billy Blythe.

12 posted on 10/15/2002 11:12:56 AM PDT by MrB
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Actually, that's quite an adequate description. What are dogs interested in? Eating, humping, and peeing on things. Adequate description of Billy Blythe.

Although lots of gals figure that "interest in eating, humping, and peeing on things" is good description of any man.

13 posted on 10/15/2002 11:17:56 AM PDT by dark_lord
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To: KarlInOhio
Maybe it's because all the unscientific polls like this are crap (along with many of the "scientific" ones),

Heh, I think the author is in a snit because we think those crappy polls are nothing more than a game. Clearly her ego takes them seriously. I am assuming it's a female from the chiding tone of her little lecture to us chil'ren- and as a female, I can say that.

14 posted on 10/15/2002 11:38:03 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: Lx
Hello Dave Stephens,

FREEPING may be a weak alternative to fair representation, but when 90-98% or so of the media personnel are hyper liberal, what menu of choices is left to us?

When the vast mass of the mass media ignores the fact that BILLDO, SHRILLERY, Al BORE et al abused power wholesale to insure that military personnel be unable to vote in the 2000 election--and those relatively few command units who succeeded in filling out the absentee ballots were disinfranchised by insuring that the absentee ballots did not reach the Registrars in time to be counted--When the mass media ignores such traitorous felonies--what reasonable recourse do we have? Your brainwashing IS effective as you well know.

When the mass media mostly ignore the implications of Ron Brown and Foster's murders rather than risk tarnishing the Felons-in-Chief, what recourse do we have?

When the mass media mostly ignores BILLDO selling late model military secrets to China for personal gain, what recourse do we have?

When the mass media mostly ignores Al Bore and company locking up a low sulpher coal field in Utah while effectively working hard to insure a more expensive deal is signed with Communist China, what recourse do we have?

When the mass media mostly treats late term rank infanticide as BUSINESS as usual, what recourse do we have?

When the mass media mostly ignores BILLDO AND SHRILLERY insuring that Communist China takes up military bases on both ends of the Panama Canal and other vulnerable-to-U.S. places, what recourse do we have?

When the mass media mostly ignores the wholesale Communization of our schools in terms of content and priorities, what recourse do we have?

When the mass media mostly ignores the hard press hardsell of homosexuality even at the kindergarten level, what recourse do we have?

When the mass media trumpets minows over human lives, what recourse do we have?

When the mass media insists that criminals be the only ones with guns, what recourse do we have?

When the mass media give fossilized, arrogant windbags like Dashdull and Byrdfinger so much air time to the destruction of the Republic, what recourse do we have?

When the mass media are happy to bankrupt the Republic with ever more mouths at the public trough while blaming it on conservatives and Republicans, what recourse do we have?

When the mass media cheer on voting crimes such as insuring the maximum number of cemetary residents voting; the maximum number of double voters; the maximum number of multiple time voters; the maximum number of illegal immagrant voters--AND THEN THE MEDIA HELP ALL THE WHINERS SCREAM BLOODY MURDER far and wide when conservatives MERELY want to make voting HONEST AND FAIR, what recourse do we have?

When the mass media cheer on the religion of hedonistic rationalism/science and give their bishops and popes vast power and soap boxes while removing God and Christianity as much from public life as possible--contrary to the clear intent of the Constitution--what recourse do we have?

When the mass media cheer on murder of the young and the old as well as maximum air time for assisted suicide, what choice do we have. Long live Logan's Run.

When the mass media cheer on TYRANNICAL CO-KINGS BILLDO AND SHRILLERY while trouncing dissenting voices, what recourse do we have?

When the mass media cheer on Co-Kings Billdo and Shrillery when they curse the very military men and women who daily put their lives on the line to protect them at close range--AND THEN have the audacity to also neuter and degrade our military forces in a long list of ways, what recourse do we have?

When mass media cheer on BILLDO and SHRILLERY when they have the audacity to be more concerned with blow-jobs than tracking down and killing Bin Laden when they had him handed to them on a silver plater--which they refused--what recourse do we have?

When mass media seem hell-bent to cheer on the violent disintegration of society rather than facilitate sanity and cooperation, what recourse do we have?

When the mass media seem hell-bent to cheer on a world government worse than Hitler's, what recourse do we have?

I await your creative suggestions,

Sincerely,
15 posted on 10/15/2002 11:58:52 AM PDT by Quix
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To: rface
Guess I got to "LX" and enjoyed all of the support. Perfect example going on right now is Zogby who has probably been paid by the DNC to put out all of the D leaning polls that literally EVERYone is spouting. We also have to be careful about Dick Morris...isn't he the one who said Hillary wouldn't run or was it win...either way...he was wrong!
16 posted on 10/15/2002 12:56:05 PM PDT by TatieBug
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To: Quix
Nicely Said!
17 posted on 10/15/2002 4:14:47 PM PDT by TatieBug
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To: TatieBug
THANKS.
18 posted on 10/15/2002 4:53:32 PM PDT by Quix
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To: TatieBug
It was sent to the email address given in the article. If there's any response, I'll try and post it here.
19 posted on 10/15/2002 5:22:31 PM PDT by Quix
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To: The_Victor
In two years of FR participation (and poll FReeps!) I don't ever recall being told how to vote in any particular poll.

I usually ignore the FREEP THIS POLL threads, although I have succumbed on occasion. Several times I've voted AGAINST the position that the particular Freeper was obviously promoting.

We all know that it doesn't matter, which makes me wonder why this guy is whining. Although, I DO know the reason why. He hates conservatives.

20 posted on 10/15/2002 5:30:15 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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