Posted on 08/02/2002 2:40:49 PM PDT by jbstrick
Hannity just stated on his radio show that he has just about had enough of the conservative cannibals on this board. To many threads end up being ledd about news and information and more about attacking fellow conservatives.
He said if he wants to get attacked he will go to a Liberal board.
I have a tendency to agree...
Treatment of choice: anal-crainiotomy.
Except in Carl Sagan's case, where a morbidly swollen cranium prevented successful extraction.
BTW, doper Sagan was an astronomer--not a physicist.
He used to be Joe Franklin, right?
I agree that Colmes is more civil that most liberals on the talk shows. I think when the show began he and Sean must have agreed not to be another on of those "shout over" shows like the ones all over MSNBC and Crossfire. I hate that shout over tactic employed primarily by liberals who use it to prevent the opposition position from being presented. They believe that if they talk long enough and loud enough viewers will think they won the point -- just another molecule in their scuminess.
I really can't get used to Colmes looks, though. The most charitable thing I can say about him is he's a pretttier version of James Carville.
As with my liberty, it requires constant vigilance. FReegards.
In principle, yes. In actuality, Sean carries the show. He is the reason the vast majority of viewers turn in. He promotes it on his national radio show. Fox knows he is a big part of why they've gained supremacy in the 24 hour cable news market. If Sean left for another station, it would be a big blow to Fox's ratings and they know it.
All that said, I'm just steamed at him for letting HIS show be ridiculed by THAT woman. Where the hell is Hannity's backbone? And he doesn't even come on later and blast what happened. Just some little mealy-mouthed, "Oh, I was out of the office the day she agreed to show up," or some such drivel. He's been told to shut up about it, HER ORDERS I'm sure, and he's doing it. Contemptible.
He should demand two whole shows refuting everything she said in her interviews, point-by-point, and challenging her at every turn to come on and face a real interview. Call her the coward she is. Call her the disgrace she is. I don't hear it, and that's his disgrace.
And Hannity let's her! Screw Sean!!!!!!
"People who are willing to give up freedom for the sake of short term security, deserve neither freedom nor security." - Benjamin Franklin
FYI, your "universal term" is an ugly epithet traditionally directed towards Italians or Mexicans. Friendly advice: find another more neutral term for attacking someone who demeans Dubya. Stuff like that gives FR a bad name.
I know that is hard for some, because things have gotten to the point where now things are personal. There are wounds in some cases, and in others there is anger. Makes it really hard for people to stand down. Unfortunately, I am pretty sure it has been planned this way.
Earlier tonight thanks to a tip from someone who I wish I had listened to earlier, we discovered someone who had at least 8 different accounts. One bashed Horowitz, Swaggert, and Art Bell. Another bashed Keyes. Another posted as a rabid Keyester. Another posted as a Klayman basher. Several seemed to have a thing for mocking Registered.
What was the guy's game? Here is a graphic and caption off of the profile of one of them:
I'm very sorry, but I just couldn't stand all the fighting any longer! |
Yes, he wanted to get people fighting to where they would walk away.
One of this guy's incarnations posted a piece or two from anarchist website strike-the-root, which to me hints to what his ideology is. It would also explain why he had a knack for going after the DC chapter folks. I recall nrkybill (anarchy Bill) had some issues with you all. They are not the same people, I don't think, but if their ideology is the same and their main targets are the same, then it is possible that there is some connection.
Obviously, the goal is to drive people away. This is not happening on just one side, it is happening on all sides. It is a form of disruption that relies on the cover of good people engaging in flame wars with them so that the disruptors seem part of the mass rather than the agent provocatuers that they are.
There are two options, really. People can help us out in finding them by refusing to take part in the flame wars and being understanding when a person gets sent to the cooler, so that eventually the real problem children are rooted out.
And the other option is to let them win by letting them drive you away- with you being people from every single conservative faction we have. Rest assured though, if that one happens, if you make another home and it starts being successful, they will come there and do it to you there.
I've asked this before. I'll ask it again. (And this is not aimed at you, tgslTakoma, but at the forum). Please stop it with the personal attacks. One can have a rip-roaring take-it-to-the-mat political debate with someone without getting personal, without resorting to childish taunts, and still not have it be bland.
And the best thing that one can do otherwise is to use a little self-enforcement. A Bushie telling a Bushie to knock off the insults is going to probably work better than a Keyester telling a Bushie to knock off the insults, and vice versa.
My flame suits are back on, so everyone have at it again. But please at least think about it. Thanks, AM
Thanks, AM
I've listened to his show a few times. I'm afraid I don't any more. He's given to inviting people who have a different viewpoint from his to his show and ambushing them. He uses tricks and tactics, changes the subject when the other side may score a point, yells over the guest, interrupts when he perceives the guest is about to make a sensible statement then moves to a strawman or a emotional appeal.
Listening to him, I'm reminded of how liberals debate. It appears that he isn't interested in really discussing an idea and its plus and minus points. The man is easily threatened, easily excitable and apparantly has little reasoning behind his positions, framing his debates on the "feeling" level.
An irrational conservative is no different from a liberal as far as I'm concerned. Either ideas work when they're examined closely or they don't, and when that examination is blocked that's clear evidence they don't.
He probably should smoke a joint before he goes on the air. Safer than Prozac.
Your and your guests' shouting-and-talking-over-each-other ratings strategy is passé, Sean. Just as "pinging" (same as shouting) on this board is fast becoming passé. O'Reilly better calm down, too. I don't tune in to you guys any longer.
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