Vanity....Allegations regarding the Elizabeth Smart Case.

[Partisan Hack]

I have been relatively active on some of the boards regarding the Elizabeth Smart case. As such, I have received numerous e-mails. This one came in just a little while ago. I am providing it for your consideration and comment.

Church or no church I believe ANY parent would have dialed 911 before anything, not run around the neighborhood and calling bishops and all. I realize Mormons are deeply into all this formality but it's their child. Call them after. But before?

Also, there's the matter of all the "people" in the home before the police arrive. I cannot believe that one of those people didn't say.. Wait.. we shouldn't be here now.

Then there's the matter of a kidnapper knowing exactly where the child's bedroom is. I know 14 is not a child, but it is to me. The kidnapper had to pass the parents bedroom not once but twice. Then he allowed her to put her sneakers/shoes on. Would you waste that precious time?

Then there's the matter of the 9 year old waiting two hours before notifying the parents. Tell me, did she really look at the clock? I doubt it. Apparently she was going to the parents room but saw the kidnapper in the house. Where did she see the kidnapper for the second time? Why did he linger in the house with his victim?

We have not heard of anything being taken from the home as in a burglary.. where are the fingerprints? We don't even know if there are any. How did the perp enter the home? If the doors were locked he either had a key or the door was unlocked. I find an unlocked door hard to believe. What was the exit route?

Now as for the child, the 9 year old seeing the perp. She can see he's wearing a "polo" shirt, that he was wearing a jacket, she can see hair on his hands, a hat all this while pretending to be asleep. But no composite? Why wasn't that done?

I have also read that she was in fact questioned by the authorities three times and each time in the presence of her mother.

Any and all information that the public has been fed was contradicted after the fact. Mr Smart himself can not answer a straight question because he doesnt want to jeopardize the case. But yet he goes on a Press Conf. and tells us about a letter that was recieved. A letter the police were, at the time, unaware of. A letter that Uncle Tom FAXED to the police department and today we hear about an E-mail he "accidently" deleted. Again, the police knew nothing.

Now you can laugh about the Enquirer being a rag magazine but they have no fear of anything especially law suits and have, believe it or not, award winning journalists working for them. This alleged "gay" porn found on the Smart computers.. this collection of supposed sexual perversion would destroy them in the Mormon community if proven to be true. When Mr Smart was questioned on it, his answer was not something a "normal" person would say, (in my opinion anyway).

Instead, he said something like.. it's irrelevant or nothing to be concerned with. Someone else might say "that's absurd" or "yeah, so what. I had porn on my computer. Who cares!"

It seems to me that this whole ordeal is either a total sham for money or notoriety or he knows exactly where his daughter is and always has but it's gone beyond his control and now has to play his own game.

In my own opinion, and I stress this as I have no solid proof to back it up, I think this child is alive and now with one of the other wives. I think Smart got himself into severe financial trouble or he was being blackmailed because of his sexual preferences.

These are just a few thoughts of mine so tear it apart if you will but these are my opinions and thanks for asking.

[Fred Mertz]

Thanks for bringing me up to date on the background and alleged inconsistencies of this case. I haven't followed it very closely.

[patriciaruth]

I think Elizabeth is dead.

You think she was married off to a Mormon polygamist?

[Partisan Hack]

1. This is an E-mail I received.
2. Nowhere in the email does it say that.

[gubamyster]

In my own opinion, and I stress this as I have no solid proof to back it up, I think this child is alive and now with one of the other wives.

Except for this comment, I agree with your analysis. I really think they need to look at the father & possibly the other family members. Ricci obviously is not the guy or they would have indicted him by now.

You better put your flame suit on though, because there are many who will accuse you of being a Mormon basher.

[the crow]

I saw you posted this on one of the Samantha threads.

Something about the Smart case has not seemed right from the start. What a contrast between the cases. I cannot help but think that, wether it was the police or the Smarts, the case was poorly handled from the start, and accordingly has led nowhere.

Look at what an accurate portrayal of the perp led to in Sam's case. In the Smart case, no one knows who they are looking for.
What a shame. I do not recall a larger mobilazation of people in any similar case. Wasted.

I still keep coming back they are trying to sweat somebody in or close to the Smart family.

Let's hear those 911 tapes. Thx for the post.

[demsux]

You really ought to check out the Van Dam threads.

[Jhoffa_]

I haven't been following the case, but it does seem pretty suspicious..

[poet]

I've had a "gut" feeling from the get go that something is not right with this family or the story. I also felt that about susan smith after watching her news conference.

[EastCoast]

You are asking the same questions I did. The whole thing smelled from the beginning and it's still smelling. Let's not forget the police. True, they weren't immediately called, but what have they been doing since that time? Just sitting and waiting for Ricci to "spill the beans"? They seem to pooh-pooh everything but Ricci. Why haven't they been searching for Liz? Something's wrong here. What about that PA van spotted in Nebraska? What happened to it?

I think Uncle Tom is more the villain than the father. When something "happens," Tom is usually the one involved.

I, too, think the Enquirer's article has a lot of truth to it; my feeling was that Liz was taken by some gay/gays who wanted to send a message to the father/Tom and the other brother. I do think she's still alive.

[ValerieUSA]

Samantha's playmate was only 5 years old, yet she gave the police such a thorough and immediate description of events and the man and his car that her eyewitness report was vital to catching this monster so quickly.

Compare this to the help from Elizabeth Smart's 9 yr old sister who witnessed a much longer abduction episode of her own sister and supposedly didn't report it for two hours.

The Smart case is an inside job. Inside the family.

[calawah98]

I believe the second time the sister saw the man was when she was going to go warn the parents, and he was standing with Elizabeth at the head of the stairs. She went back and got into bed, and waited for what she thought was two hours.

The Uncle Tom is the one that would not let the gal do the composite of the guy. Klauss said he talked to the dad and he said ok, but when they got there, Uncle Tom said no.

[calawah98]

I think you are right, some one on the other thread said Mormons grow their own wives.
Theres' just something odd about the whole case, when they give news conferences they always talk to her like she is out there listening.
Samathas' Mom was talking to the perp.

[lakey]

Susan Smith gut feeling. Ah, yes, I remember well. I said, "She did it." My grown son said, "Mothers don't do that." And I replied, "Sometimes they do, sometimes they do."

[cherry]

Compare this to the help from Elizabeth Smart's 9 yr old sister who witnessed a much longer abduction episode of her own sister and supposedly didn't report it for two hours.

at this point I don't think any fact is truely a fact...the public has been told things or lead to believe things and we have no idea of their credibility...

like for instance...what the little girl saw...maybe she saw nothing at all...maybe she heard nothing...maybe the whole thing was just to set up the perp to make him think the cops were on to him....

well, it didn't work

[ValerieUSA]

Are you talking about the Smart sister or the 5 yr old playmate?

[ValerieUSA]

The cops in the Smart case would have to have acted as if the parents or someone in the family was a prime suspect - because that's the way it usually is. They wouldn't have tried such a stupid ruse using the little sister ... maybe they would - they are stupid and lazy and probably have a corrupt officer or seven among them.

[cherry]

the little Smart girl.....it is not her fault that all this info seems strange....I am sure she herself is telling the truth...I think the cops , etc have tried to color her testimony...use it as an investigative tool

I don't think we should think that MK should know more....we just don't know really what went on in that home....I think she would do anything for her big sister,don't you?

[Utah Girl]

No, what was said on the other threads was that polygamists grow their own wives. It is very common for men to marry young daughters of their uncle or cousins. It is extremely rare for anyone outside of a polygamist clan to marry into one (for women.) Some men, OTOH, cotton to polygamy quite readily, even though they weren't raised inside of polygamy.

And at the risk of sounding like a broken record, any member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons), who is found to be in polygamy, is immediately excommunicated. No ifs, ands or buts, we're even asked in our ecclestiastical interviews if we have any sympathy towards any polygamy groups.

Almost all polygamists in Utah stay within their own clans, they do not want to call attention to their lifestyle. To kidnap a girl such as Elizabeth Smart would just bring the law and the media down on them.

[JustPiper]

Does anyone have the news story on the woman in Wyoming? She saw Ricci a few days after the kidnapping. It coincides with the unexplained mileage on is odometer. she said she saw him digging holes by a fence and also a picture of him wearing that tan golf cap...FYI please more?