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7 KILLED, 20 HURT IN BUS ATTACK NEAR SETTLEMENT OF IMMANUEL
Ha'aretz ^ | July 16, 2002 | Amos Harel, Haim Shadmi and Nadav Shragai,

Posted on 07/16/2002 6:11:19 AM PDT by Clive

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To: dennisw
Just detonate an unattributable car bomb off near the most infamous Jihadist mosques. The mosques with the most rabid preachers. Repeat as necessary until Pallie psycho killers get the message.

Works for me, Dennis.

41 posted on 07/16/2002 10:05:23 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: cardinal4
Islam sucks.

bump

42 posted on 07/16/2002 10:08:11 AM PDT by biblewonk
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To: cardinal4
Islam sucks.

So that's why Bill Clinton supported the Pallies so much!

43 posted on 07/16/2002 10:44:45 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Tolik
"The economy NEVER was an issue for Arafat and his gang."

I know. That is why I knew President Bush's offer would be rejected by the terrorists. The propaganda they preach to justify murder IS what the West has come to believe after all these decades. Odds are that even some Palestinians might believe it by now. The president called them on it by making the offer...in addition, any Palestinians who REALLY wanted freedom, an economy and a normal job.... REAL, NORMAL LIFE.... have the option of taking him up on it and achieving that dream, if they wish. Sadly, few have.

44 posted on 07/16/2002 11:12:16 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: 1bigdictator
>> What would a 747 loaded with fuel do to that large black rock in Mecca?

Let 'em keep the rock. What needs to happen is a brigade of IDF and a company of armored bulldozers needs to drive up the temple mount one morning and push over that damned dome of the rock and start rebuilding the temple. Then let the chips fall where they may.
45 posted on 07/16/2002 11:12:47 AM PDT by johnb838
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To: Commie Basher
That's all liberal media crap.

We use mexicans because it's cheap and convenient, same as the Israelis. Don't even try to make the argument that we couldn't do without our dishwashers, ditch-diggers, and housekeepers because it just won't wash. We need to give those jobs back to our kids (who would be surprisingly glad to have them if they were available) and shut the borders now.
46 posted on 07/16/2002 11:19:21 AM PDT by johnb838
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To: TheBattman
>>Yet how can that be, the God of Christianity and Judaism
>>is the same loving God that preaches compassion. The god
>>of Islam preaches hate and intolerance.

Maybe because they supposedly "descend" from Ishmael, the bastard son of Abraham who was born against God's will and whom God allowed to be expelled into the desert when Isaac came along?
47 posted on 07/16/2002 11:22:12 AM PDT by johnb838
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To: johnb838
"Let 'em keep the rock."

I say we hold the Rock hostage. We go in, we TAKE the thing...and we stick it inside the case of a specially fitted, active nuke. We build a temple in some more or less neutral spot that the Muslims can identify with....the middle of the Shahara. We build a HUGE fortress, with Gulag-like security, around the temple. That way, they can visit it whever they wish, IF they behave themselves.

If they DON'T behave themselves....if there is one more act of terrorism committed by any Muslim anywhere...NO MORE PRAYING TO ROCKS AT BEDTIME, BECAUSE THE ROCK IS NOT EVEN MOLECULES ANYMORE.

Nah, probably won't work. Nice thought though...for a few glorious minutes....

48 posted on 07/16/2002 11:40:47 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: neutrino
Yeah...the unending peace of the grave.

Or to quote Mark Steyn, a religion of piece - a piece of your enemy here, a piece of your enemy there.

49 posted on 07/16/2002 11:43:24 AM PDT by Spyder
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To: Commie Basher
Someone who claims to know told me that if Israel closed out the West Bank Arabs, Israel's economy would collapse. Apparently, most of Israel's menial dirty work is done by Arabs, same as Mexicans do most of it in the American southwest.

Then that guy knows squat. For years guest workers- mostly Thai and Romanian- have been working in increasing numbers in Israel. There will always be sources of willing workers who have the extra advantage that when they get angry and blow up at the boss do not do so literally.

In fact the opposite is true. Without Israel's strong market economy, the Pals are doing a gainer into deep penury that the UN and Arab blood largress can not puull them out of.

50 posted on 07/16/2002 12:02:58 PM PDT by JAWs
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To: JAWs
"Without Israel's strong market economy, the Pals are doing a gainer into deep penury that the UN and Arab blood largress can not puull them out of"

...Good thing Saddam, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon are supporting them, or the rest of the world might think there's a problem with the Pali government.

The Palis have another industry that no one has mentioned on this thread...they produce mass quantities of homocide bombers which the above three countries pay big bucks for. Otherwise, many Pali families would have no income to spend on "bread."

51 posted on 07/16/2002 12:14:45 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: 1bigdictator
Nuetron bomb would be neater...but hey the media loves those big flashy shows...
52 posted on 07/16/2002 12:46:29 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: JAWs
Right on target. There are so many foreign, non-Arab guest workers in Israel that white slave trade operations to service this population has become a major criminal problem. Israel has become a very complex nation with a lot of non-Jewish population groups present.
53 posted on 07/16/2002 2:09:46 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Alouette

Palestinian gunmen killed seven Israelis and wounded at least 19 in an attack on a bus near a Jewish settlement in the northern West Bank yesterday, the Israeli army said. Israeli security officials said roadside bombs were detonated under the bullet-proof bus, after which Palestinian snipers perched on a nearby hill opened fire on fleeing passengers and people in other cars. AFP photo

54 posted on 07/16/2002 2:52:26 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: johnb838
We use mexicans because it's cheap and convenient, same as the Israelis. Don't even try to make the argument that we couldn't do without our dishwashers, ditch-diggers, and housekeepers because it just won't wash. We need to give those jobs back to our kids (who would be surprisingly glad to have them if they were available )

Are you sure about that? I don't know. I go to a large carwash on L.A.'s westside. Lots of whites (and an occassional black) sitting in the shady waiting area, talking on cell phones, lazily watching dozens of Latinos washing cars under the sun. Not a job that I, or any of the other westsiders, would want. I'm not even sure if their kids would want it.

Liberal crap? Even National Review's Rob Long (who lives in L.A.) said that L.A. could not survive without its Mexican labor force.

55 posted on 07/16/2002 4:18:12 PM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: JAWs
For years guest workers- mostly Thai and Romanian- have been working in increasing numbers in Israel.

I know about them (I thought there were more Philipinos?). The Jerusalem Report ran a story on them last winter. I think it said there were several hundred thousand (300,000?) Asian guest workers. And that many of them (and some Israeli activists) felt the guest workers were being exploited, and were trying to organize them into unions. And that some guest workers might want full rights, such as citizenship, which worries Israelis who want to maintain Israel's Jewish majority.

I thought the parallels to the US -- a third world labor force vs. Jewish "Buchananites" (my term) -- was ironic.

I guess the Jerusalem Report is "liberal," but it often has interesting articles on topics not covered in the US.

56 posted on 07/16/2002 4:28:48 PM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: Commie Basher; johnb838
I go to a large carwash on L.A.'s westside. Lots of whites (and an occassional black) sitting in the shady waiting area, talking on cell phones, lazily watching dozens of Latinos washing cars under the sun. Not a job that I, or any of the other westsiders, would want. I'm not even sure if their kids would want it.

I'll bet similar arguments were used to defend slavery.

57 posted on 07/16/2002 4:29:23 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Commie Basher; johnb838
Americans complain about "illegals," but then refuse to do sweaty dirty work for low wages.

Maybe if the supply of cheap illegal labor dried up, employers might have to pay more. Heck, if they paid enough, I'd wash cars.

If that makes car-washing expensive, then it would pay for someone to invent a better way to wash cars--or invent a paint or coating that when applied to cars, would make cars self-cleaning.

But we'll never know because why bother inventing anything when we can have economic slavery instead.

58 posted on 07/16/2002 4:38:59 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: robowombat; Commie Basher
"so many foreign, non-Arab guest workers in Israel ... has become a very complex nation with a lot of non-Jewish population groups present." A relevant point. Both the Palestinian and the Israeli populations have changed enormously in the last decade. The Palestinians used to be peasant farmers, but lost a lot of land to the settlements. The Israelis used to be a very homogeneous society, and the IDF never anticipated fighting with the Arabs on the West Bank, who had no weapons and no skills. The Palestinians who did this attack on the bus were wearing Israeli uniforms. They will have bought them from corrupt individuals. Likewise they buy a lot of weapons from Israeli weapons dealers. Why not? Those guys are only in Israel as a stepping stone from Russia/Turkey/Rumania ... or whereever, to the USA. They are not Jews, and can hardly be bothered pretending to be. There was a time when there was not a man in Israel, no matter how poor, who would sell his uniform and weapons to the Arabs. No more. The Ben Gurion generation is gone, along with the old Palestinian who never looked beyond his own block of land.
59 posted on 07/16/2002 4:58:40 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil
Those guys are only in Israel as a stepping stone from Russia/Turkey/Rumania ... or whereever, to the USA. They are not Jews, and can hardly be bothered pretending to be.

Interesting observation. A few of those Russians may not even be ethnic Jews. I've a friend who teaches immigrants in NY. Mainly Chinese, with many Russian Jews, and a few Latinos and Haitians.

My friend was surprised to learn that one of his Russian students was a gentile (they're that rare). The student confessed that he pretended to be Jewish, because it easier to immigrate that way. (The US extends "refugee status" to Jews, Baptists, and Jehovah's Witnesses, so there's no waiting list, and they immeadiately qualify for SSI and food stamps -- a relic policy leftoever from the Cold War).

I wonder how many Russians pretend to be Jewish to get into the US or Israel?

Immigrants from all nations claim to be persecuted, whether true or not, to get into Europe and the US. Immigration policy throughout the world is messy and corrupt.

60 posted on 07/16/2002 5:16:19 PM PDT by Commie Basher
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