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To: robowombat; Commie Basher
"so many foreign, non-Arab guest workers in Israel ... has become a very complex nation with a lot of non-Jewish population groups present." A relevant point. Both the Palestinian and the Israeli populations have changed enormously in the last decade. The Palestinians used to be peasant farmers, but lost a lot of land to the settlements. The Israelis used to be a very homogeneous society, and the IDF never anticipated fighting with the Arabs on the West Bank, who had no weapons and no skills. The Palestinians who did this attack on the bus were wearing Israeli uniforms. They will have bought them from corrupt individuals. Likewise they buy a lot of weapons from Israeli weapons dealers. Why not? Those guys are only in Israel as a stepping stone from Russia/Turkey/Rumania ... or whereever, to the USA. They are not Jews, and can hardly be bothered pretending to be. There was a time when there was not a man in Israel, no matter how poor, who would sell his uniform and weapons to the Arabs. No more. The Ben Gurion generation is gone, along with the old Palestinian who never looked beyond his own block of land.
59 posted on 07/16/2002 4:58:40 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil
Those guys are only in Israel as a stepping stone from Russia/Turkey/Rumania ... or whereever, to the USA. They are not Jews, and can hardly be bothered pretending to be.

Interesting observation. A few of those Russians may not even be ethnic Jews. I've a friend who teaches immigrants in NY. Mainly Chinese, with many Russian Jews, and a few Latinos and Haitians.

My friend was surprised to learn that one of his Russian students was a gentile (they're that rare). The student confessed that he pretended to be Jewish, because it easier to immigrate that way. (The US extends "refugee status" to Jews, Baptists, and Jehovah's Witnesses, so there's no waiting list, and they immeadiately qualify for SSI and food stamps -- a relic policy leftoever from the Cold War).

I wonder how many Russians pretend to be Jewish to get into the US or Israel?

Immigrants from all nations claim to be persecuted, whether true or not, to get into Europe and the US. Immigration policy throughout the world is messy and corrupt.

60 posted on 07/16/2002 5:16:19 PM PDT by Commie Basher
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