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The Greens are toast burned toast: Simpson busts eco-wackos for insane forest-fire policies
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Monday, June 24, 2002 | Barbara Simpson

Posted on 06/24/2002 5:12:57 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

Enviros are NUTS!

In Sacramento, last week, the U.S. Forest Service said it will remove 80 percent of the dead trees burned last August on some 2,400 acres of federal land burned near Lake Tahoe in the Star Fire. But more than 16,000 acres burned in that fire – no plans yet for those dead trees.

But the environmentalists already say "no"! They want more trees left because they say the plan concentrates too heavily on removing wood that could feed another fire.

Say again?!? They want to feed fires?

We're in the midst of a flaming disaster. The pictures are horrifying and words to describe them push editorial creativity. First, the Colorado Hayman fire blazed through 100,000 acres, then Arizona did the same. Monster fires – and still out of control.

How do you describe hell on earth? How do you describe tornadoes of flame so hot and fast moving that firefighters are pulled off the lines. As one said, "We're not going to risk their lives to save a house." Or any other human property. Or domestic and wild animals. Or indeed, the forest itself.

The fire rules, and flames are in charge. Almost nothing man can do will make much difference. The situation was (and remains) a recipe for disaster: Lots of fuel, heat, wind, rugged terrain, drought – plus, in some cases, help from humans in getting the inferno started – add up to a perfect combination for an inferno. Which is what we have.

The blaze in Arizona is being blamed on human causes. No suspect yet. In Colorado, it's different. Thirty-eight-year-old Forest Service worker Terry Lynn Barton has been indicted on four federal charges: setting the fire, damaging federal property, injuring a firefighter and using fire to commit a felony. She pleaded not guilty.

Perhaps she thought she'd be a hero – she first reported the blaze. Then the holes in her story became clear and she pulled a female trick saying she was angry over a letter from her ex and burned it. The fire got out of control.

My, my – and on company time too. I was imagining her legal defense – you know … poor woman and PMS and all that.

But that didn't last long. She's been charged and if convicted on all counts, faces up to 65 years in prison and a $1 million fine.

That's all? I'd vote for life. As for a fine, the total amount of the damage caused plus the cost of fighting the flames. Even that wouldn't be enough.

As I write this, more than 19 major fires are burning across the country with nearly 1.9 million acres blackened. By the time you read this – well, I don't even want to think what the total might be as flames sear the tinder-dry landscape.

Nature has its own way of dealing with fires: They begin, they burn, they go out. Flames are part of the cycle, allowing germination of various plant seeds and encouraging the healthy forest re-growth. These kinds of fires clean out the forest floor, ridding it of dead wood and debris and keeping the soil cleansed and healthy.

Under natural circumstances, monumental fires, like those burning now, didn't happen. Remember when Yellowstone burned? People were shocked. But why? It was just a matter of time, because humans got involved and environmentalists made it worse.

For the last century, we've gone to great lengths to ensure fires happen rarely and are extinguished quickly. With Smoky the Bear as the leader, the goal was prevention at almost any cost. Great for saving houses, lousy for saving forests, and ultimately, as we see today, we end up losing the houses and the forests.

But then the Greens – "environmentalists" – came on the scene with their credo "nature good – human bad." Their goal is to keep man out of the country – no roads, trails, camping, hiking, riding, hunting, driving, living, logging. Nothing.

They use lawsuits as weapons. They've prevented the construction and use of fire access roads, prevented the removal of dead trees and underbrush (which act as fuel when fires do start), have forced a "zero cut" logging policy which promotes abnormal forest growth and, in documented cases, prevented using river water to fight adjacent fires!

When liberal courts give them victory, the money to pay their lawyers comes from funds allocated for forest restoration and maintenance. You couldn't have a better plan for environmental destruction. They're still at it.

And consider this: Last weekend was only the start of the fire season.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: enviralists; forestfires; landgrab; reuters; wildfires
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Monday, June 24, 2002

Quote of the Day by LonePalm

1 posted on 06/24/2002 5:12:57 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
I am an outdoorsman. I love nature and natural things and believe in a balance of development and preservation.

But, these enviro-nazi's have carried things way past extreme with their forest preservation theories. Common sense get's flushed down the toilet whenever the enviro-nazi's get involved with forest management.

Common sense dictates that forests are renewable resources.

I don't know about other parts of the country, but the timber companies do a great job managing forests here in Georgia. If the enviro-whacks show up out here, they are gonna have 2 million angry hunters to deal with.

2 posted on 06/24/2002 5:26:41 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: JohnHuang2
wow-good article
3 posted on 06/24/2002 5:29:17 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: JohnHuang2
**But the environmentalists already say "no"! They want more trees left because they say the plan concentrates too heavily on removing wood that could feed another fire. **

Strategy revealed? Burn everybody out in monstrous fires, and then forbid anyone to rebuild because of the fire danger.
4 posted on 06/24/2002 5:35:19 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: jimtorr
Instead of the old type of fires which burned undebrush, these huge fires destroy everything, in some cases down to and including the roots. Nobody will want to build in a place that will erode and wash mud down into their house for a couple decades.
5 posted on 06/24/2002 5:42:05 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: JohnHuang2
But the environmentalists already say "no"! They want more trees left because they say the plan concentrates too heavily on removing wood that could feed another fire.

Glad to see the Arizona governor blast these idiots for this exact reason. Saw her on a video clip this morning, she was hot on this subject.

6 posted on 06/24/2002 5:45:20 AM PDT by ladtx
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To: JohnHuang2
We didn't learn from the Yellowstone fire and I predict, we won't learn from these fires. The media WILL NOT report the truth, because the truth will help the evil right wing and hurt their pals, the enviro-nazis. In a democratic society, the majority opinion generally wins, if the majority don't know the truth, they don't get to make a decision. Thank you liberal media, thank you.
7 posted on 06/24/2002 5:46:03 AM PDT by Kermit
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To: ladtx
Bump!
8 posted on 06/24/2002 5:46:19 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
up to 65 years in prison and a $1 million fine

Nope, not proper.
She should serve as an indentured servant, provided bare necessities, and the rest of her income goes to a fund that repays all the damage. When all the damage is repaid, she's free to live her life.

All property crime criminals need to repay the people who lost property due to their crime.

9 posted on 06/24/2002 5:52:06 AM PDT by MrB
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To: JohnHuang2
I honestly don't know how to reply to these nut jobs anymore. I could go on and on about the necessity of doing things like this (removing fuel), but they wouldn't listen.

At every turn of the page, these folks are advoating things that destroy America. Not that we have missed it here on FR, but the transparency of the Communist/Socialist influence of the enviro movement's policies is stark. How every American doesn't see this and puke, I will never know.

Maybe we should start a "Cut down a tree day", instead of "Plant a Tree Day"... Boy, that would send them through the roof, eh?

10 posted on 06/24/2002 5:58:44 AM PDT by mattdono
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To: JohnHuang2
It not the environment as much as it is issues.
11 posted on 06/24/2002 6:03:08 AM PDT by oyez
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To: viligantcitizen
"If the enviro-whacks show up out here, they are gonna have 2 million angry hunters to deal with."

Open season on environazis?

12 posted on 06/24/2002 6:04:34 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: MrB
She should serve as an indentured servant,...

I saw a lady on FOX a few days ago talking about this very thing. The lady said she lost everything, no roof over hear head, nothing. She also said that the woman who started the fire, if she is found guilty, will have a free roof over her head, free food, etc.

The lady being interviewed was angry. I don't blame her.

13 posted on 06/24/2002 6:30:45 AM PDT by Budge
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To: sweetliberty
Open season on environazis?

Kinda like Arkansas hunters, eh? =o)

14 posted on 06/24/2002 6:33:25 AM PDT by Budge
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To: Budge
The enviro wackos like to watch Mother Nature burn. Its their idea of caring for her well-being.
15 posted on 06/24/2002 6:34:34 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: Budge
Whatever works.
16 posted on 06/24/2002 6:35:38 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: JohnHuang2
Question John. You don't suppose these fires will affect global warming, do you? How about the ozone layer? El Nino? Etc., etc., etc..

I haven't heard one word from any media outlet or environmental group concerning any impact, if any, these fires will have on the the "air".

Personaly, if I build a house in the forest....a fire might destroy it. Chance I take.

I strongly urge all environmentalists be sent to these fire locations and replace the brave firefighters struggling to protect the the idiosy of standing in natures way.

17 posted on 06/24/2002 6:37:01 AM PDT by captnorb
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To: mattdono
the transparency of the Communist/Socialist influence of the enviro movement's policies is stark.

Watermelons...Green on the outside, red on the inside.

18 posted on 06/24/2002 6:45:11 AM PDT by martin gibson
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To: captnorb
Good point. I remember the firemen saying that these fires actually create their own weather systems. There's El Nino.

Indiana is on the razor's edge of federal regulation for ozone regulation, so we have a massive ad campaign telling people when they should wait until evening to pump gas, mow the lawn, and burn leaves and trash. There's global warming.

19 posted on 06/24/2002 6:48:17 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: JohnHuang2
Thanks John,

Focused like laser
Ever crusading for truth
Freeper JohnHuang2

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Jamais reculez á tyrannie un pouce!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! Never give an inch to tyranny!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

20 posted on 06/24/2002 6:50:47 AM PDT by LonePalm
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