Posted on 05/20/2002 2:26:35 AM PDT by cgk
A day in the life of the McKinney fundraising apperatus. One very lucrative day in particular:
AHMED, WASEEM - LAS VEGAS, NV 89117 - CENTER FOR LUNG DISEASES/PHYSICIAN - 9/11/2001 - $250
ALAMOUDI, ABDURAHMAN - FALLS CHURCH, VA 22041 - AMERICAN MUSLIM FOUNDATION/PRESIDENT - 9/11/2001 - $1,000
ALAMOUDI, ABDURAHMAN - FALLS CHURCH, VA 22041 - AMERICAN MUSLIM FOUNDATION/PRESIDENT - 9/11/2001 - $2,000
ALKEBSI, ABDULWAHAB - POTOMAC, MD 20854 - ISLAMIC INSTITUTE/EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR - 9/11/2001 - $700
ASHQAR, ABDELHALEEM - ALEXANDRIA, VA 22310 - HOWARD UNIVERSITY/PROFESSOR - 9/11/2001 $250
AWAD, NIHAD - WASHINGTON, DC 20003 - CAIR/DIRECTOR - 9/11/2001 - $500
BAIG, KHALIQ - LAS VEGAS, NV 89123 - 9/11/2001 - $500
BUSHNAQ, YASER - FALLS CHURCH, VA 22041 - SELF EMPLOYED/COMPUTER CONSULTANT - 9/11/2001 - $500
CHOWDHRY, BASHIR - LAS VEGAS, NV 89120 - 9/11/2001 - $500
CHOWDHRY, SHAHEEN - LAS VEGAS, NV 89128 - 9/11/2001 - $250
FAREED, ATIF - HENDERSON, NV 89015 - SOUTHWEST AIRLINES/PILOT - 9/11/2001 - $1,000
HAIKAL, OSAMA - HENDERSON, NV 89014 SELF/PHYSICIAN - 9/11/2001 - $500
HASAN, FAISAL - FAIRFAX, VA 22032 CARFAX/GOVT. RELATIONS - 9/11/2001 - $600
IBRAHIM, HASSAN - CENTREVILLE, MD 22020 - 9/11/2001 - $1,000
IRANI, RAY - LOS ANGELES, CA 90077 - OCCIDENTAL PETROLEUM CORP. - 9/11/2001 - $1,000
JABRI, SABAH - SAN DIEGO, CA 92130 - N/A/RETIRED - 9/11/2001 - $250
MIRZA, YAQUB - HERNDON, VA 20170 - MAR JAC INVESTMENTS INC./PRESIDENT - 9/11/2001 - $500
MONIB, AHMED - LAS VEGAS, NV 89106 - 9/11/2001 - $250
OMEISH, MOHAMED - FALLS CHURCH, VA 22041 - AMERICAN MUSLIM FOUNDATION/VICE PRESIDENT - 9/11/2001 - $500
QAZI, SAYED - LAS VEGAS, NV 89107 - QAZI MEDICAL CORPORATION/M.D. - 9/11/2001 - $1,000
SALEH, YOUSEF - SPRINGFIELD, VA 22151 - 9/11/2001 - $300
Your logic falls flat. What slave owners are you talking about? Are you saying white people, in general, today are as connected to slave-holders from over 100 years ago as a number of Islamic terrorist apologists giving money on the same day as a terrorist attack to a woman who refuses to back our defense of terrorism are connected to the terrorists themselves? Is that the same logic that lets you blame Enron for the California budget deficit, not the fact that spending increased 36% in two years? You might want to get a trade-in on that logic you got there.
Okay, I see what you're referring to:
FAREED, ATIF HENDERSON, NV 89015 SOUTHWEST AIRLINES/PILOT 9/11/2001 $1,000 McKinney, Cynthia A
FAREED, ATIF A HENDERSON, NV 89015 PHYSICIAN 10/31/2000 $500 Porter, Jon
Being that Mr. Fareed is a pilot of 20 years in his sixties, it's entirely possible he has a son who happens to be a physician. Notice they're distinguished here by the middle intial "A" (there's the letter again). That's certainly a more realistic scenario than any that suggest that this website is just "making things up".
I'll look into it and see if that's the case.
Contributor | Occupation | Date | Amount | Recipient |
FAREED, ATIF HENDERSON, NV 89015 |
SOUTHWEST AIRLINES/PILOT | 9/11/2001 | $1,000 | McKinney, Cynthia A |
FAREED, ATIF A HENDERSON, NV 89015 |
PHYSICIAN | 10/31/2000 | $500 | Porter, Jon |
Contributor | Occupation | Date | Amount | Recipient |
QAZI, SAYED LAS VEGAS, NV 89107 |
QAZI MEDICAL CORPORATION/M.D. | 9/11/2001 | $1,000 | McKinney, Cynthia A |
QAZI, SAYED Z LAS VEGAS, NV 89119 |
SOUTHWEST AIRLINES | 10/31/2000 | $300 | Porter, Jon |
Time to start looking into Mr. Porter...
You'll have to forgive me if I choose to believe the worst about these people.
This is more than strange.
I think you've stumbled onto something, ml/nj.
Obviously, opensecrets isn't just making these names up...
Not uncommon with Arabic names. For example, here are the names of the 19 Sept. 11 hijackers;
This certainly occurred to me. But I thought there were a reasonable number of Arabic sounding names on the second half of the list. Looking at data is something I'm trained to do, and despite the fact you point out I still question the prima facia validity of the data.
I said: I just checked every one of the 9/11/2001 donors and none of them gave to anyone else on that day.
And you replied: Which is precisely why the focus is on Cynthia McKinney.
Again the data doesn't pass my smell test. Looking over all the supposed 9/11 contributors, I see donations at other times to other Congressmen. It doesn't make any sense that all of these people would donate only to McKinney on 9/11. Why not some others of their "friends" also on 9/11?
The data is a matter of public record, easily verifiable through Federal Election Commission records.
I'm not questioning in whether the FEC has this data. I'm questioning the validity of the data. There is a difference. It could have been altered by someone for reasons I cannot presently guess.
Atif Fareed, the Southwest Airlines pilot, appears only once on this list.
Maybe you misunderstood what I was writing about?
I said: And curiously another donor, also from NV, was listed as a doctor on the McKinney donation, and as a "Southwest Airlines" employee on the one other donation he made.
Contributor Occupation Date Amount Recipient FAREED, ATIF
HENDERSON, NV 89015SOUTHWEST AIRLINES/PILOT 9/11/2001 $1,000 McKinney, Cynthia A FAREED, ATIF A
HENDERSON, NV 89015PHYSICIAN 10/31/2000 $500 Porter, Jon
And you replied: Which name? Which list? Unless you're just repeating the above point, which was just refuted.
This one:
It sounds like you'd just rather not believe it.
Contributor Occupation Date Amount Recipient QAZI, SAYED
LAS VEGAS, NV 89107QAZI MEDICAL CORPORATION/M.D. 9/11/2001 $1,000 McKinney, Cynthia A QAZI, SAYED Z
LAS VEGAS, NV 89119SOUTHWEST AIRLINES 10/31/2000 $300 Porter, Jon
Conservatives aren't allowed to be wrong about anything. Get one thing even partially wrong and you are forever discredited. I am just being careful.
ML/NJ
I'm sure you know, when you make a charge such as "the data has been manipulated", you're employing an age-old leftist tactic: question the source and force the messenger to disprove a baseless charge. Any piece of information can be dismissed this way. The least you can do is provide one example of opensecrets.org or the F.E.C. intentionally manipulating data.
I can certainly imagine CAIR and/or allied organizations deciding on the spur of the moment, after 9/11 happened, to ensure the loyalty of at least one member of Congress and asking as many people as possible to donate to that one member. It's not inconceivable.
It's time for you to grow up, cgk.
There's all sorts of disinformation out there. E.g. There were all sorts of wild things repeated about Vince Foster, that he was a Mosaad agent, that he was involved in some sort of intrigue with nefarious companies. The people who repeated this nonsense also said some things that were true but it all got discredited along with the nonsense. (Find out sometime why Rush mostly stopped talking about Foster. It isn't because he doesn't suspect foul play.) And if you believe Vince Foster committed suicide, I have a bridge you might be interested in buying.
You may call my charges, if that's what they are, "baseless." I think I have provided some basis for them. And I also provided a point-by-point answer to your previous criticism of what I wrote.Why don't we let the Peanut Gallery decide?
BTW, my degrees are in Math, and I scored really high on my Math SAT, before they dumbed down the scores for you younger folk. Do you have credentials and experience, or just feelings?
I never claimed that the FEC was "intentionally manipulating data." They report what is given to them, and then are subject like anyone else to neerdowells who might alter the data once they are in place.
ML/NJ
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