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Explorer From China Who 'Beat Columbus To America'
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 3-4-2002 | Elizabeth Grice

Posted on 03/04/2002 3:24:49 PM PST by blam

Explorer from China who 'beat Columbus to America'

By Elizabeth Grice
(Filed: 04/03/2002)

HISTORY books in 23 countries may need to be rewritten in the light of new evidence that Chinese explorers had discovered most parts of the world by the mid-15th century.

Next week, an amateur historian will expound his theory - backed up by charts, ancient artefacts and anthropological research - that when Columbus discovered America in 1492, he was 72 years too late.

And so were other explorers, such as Cook, Magellan and Da Gama, whose heroic voyages took them to Australia, South America and India.

Instead, according to Gavin Menzies, a former submarine commanding officer who has spent 14 years charting the movements of a Chinese expeditionary fleet between 1421 and 1423, the eunuch admiral, Zheng He, was there first.

According to Menzies, it was Zheng He, in his colossal multi-masted ships stuffed with treasure, silks and porcelain, who made the first circumnavigation of the world, beating the Portuguese navigator Ferdinand Magellan by a century.

Menzies will present his findings at the Royal Geographical Society on March 15 before an invited audience of more than 200 diplomats, academics, naval officers and publishers. Their initial reaction, based on an outline of his thesis, ranges from excitement to scepticism.

But if the number of acceptances - 85 per cent - is anything to go by, he will not be ignored.

He originally intended to write a book about the significance of the year 1421 around the world. While researching it in Venice, he was shown a planisphere, dated 1459, which included southern Africa and the Cape of Good Hope.

Yet the Cape was not "discovered" as a sea route by Vasco da Gama until 1497. On the planisphere was a note in medieval Phoenician about a voyage round the Cape to the Cape Verde Islands in 1420 - and a picture of a Chinese junk.

Menzies felt he was on to something.

Using Chinese star charts and maps that pre-date the expeditions of Cook, Magellan, de Gama and Columbus, he has reconstructed what he believes is the epic voyage of Zheng He.

He says his knowledge of astro-navigation helped him to work out that the Chinese, using the brilliant star Canopus to chart their course, had sailed close to the South Pole.

He determined their latitude and went on to find literary and archaeological evidence to show that the Chinese had effectively circumnavigated the world.

Menzies, 64, admits that his greatest fear was being ridiculed.

He said: "When I started, I was terrified people would think I was a crank. But although my claim is complicated and stands history on its head, I am confident of my ground.

He added: "What nobody has explained is why the European explorers had maps. Who drew the maps? There are millions of square miles of ocean. It required huge fleets to chart them. If you say it wasn't the Chinese, with the biggest fleets and ships in the world, then who was it?"

Admiral Sir John Woodward, who served on submarines with Menzies in the 1960s and will be at his lecture, describes him as a brilliant maverick.

He said: "I was his teacher on a commanding officers' qualifying course and he was the cleverest, sharpest and best I had seen. He is not some mad eccentric but a rational man, good at analysis - and he certainly knows all about charts."

Chinese ocean-going supremacy in the first half of the 15th century is not in question.

The expeditionary junks were three times the size of Nelson's Victory and dwarfed the 16th century ocean-going European caravels. Under his patron, the Yong-le Emperor Zhui Di, Zheng He made seven great voyages to bring foreigners into China's tribute system.

When he returned in October 1423, China was in political and economic chaos. The treasure fleet, now considered frivolous, was mothballed, admirals pensioned off and shipyards closed.

Although most of the records of Zheng He's voyage were expunged, a few maps and star charts survived.

Menzies believes they were taken to Venice by a merchant traveller, Nicolo da Conti, who had joined one of the Chinese junks in India. In his travel book published in 1434, da Conti claims to have sailed to China via Australia - 350 years before Captain Cook.

Menzies argues that, on his way through Venice in 1428, the King of Portugal's eldest son obtained the salvaged maps and incorporated them into a map of the world.

The most controversial part of his theory is that copies of parts of this mappa mundi were used by da Gama, Magellan and Cook. Some of these still survive in museums: Patagonia (1513), North America (1507), Africa (1502) and Asia and Australia (1542).

The letters and logs of the European explorers - including Columbus - certainly acknowledge that they had maps, says Menzies. "They knew where they were going before they set out."

Using his knowledge of winds and tides, Menzies has located what he believes are nine Chinese leviathans wrecked in the Caribbean in December 1421.

Pictures of the hull ballast on the seabed show stones identical in shape and size to those found in a Chinese treasure ship recently excavated in the Philippines.

Menzies declines to name the uninhabited island because he believes some of the ships may still contain treasure and he wants to investigate them.

Gillian Hutchinson, curator of the history of cartography at the National Maritime Museum, is not persuaded that there is a provable link between the Chinese maps and those the Europeans used.

She says: "It is possible that Chinese geographical knowledge had reached Europe before the Age of Discovery. But Mr Menzies is absolutely certain of it, and that makes it difficult to separate evidence from wishful thinking."

Diplomats of the countries whose early history may be affected by his thesis are reacting with a surprising degree of warmth.

Gregory Baughen, first secretary at the New Zealand High Commission, says: "It sounds exciting. We're all ears. Chinese artefacts have been found around the coast for some time."

Luis de Sousa, press councillor at the Portuguese Embassy, says: "Magellan is in all the books and his descendants carry his name with -+pride. But if the Chinese circumnavigated the world first, which is quite possible, then let's give them their 15 minutes of limelight."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1421; archaeology; china; clovis; gavinmenzies; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; historylist; navigation; phoeniciansgreeks; preclovis; romans; vikings
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To: crystalk
The plot thickens. Maybe Luzia was on that first boat. The First Chinese Were Black
81 posted on 03/05/2002 1:09:51 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Look at the data. That reconstruction is Afro-friendly and in fact she was of the same race as the indians in north america and of whoever came to S America 39000 yrs ago and is still there.
83 posted on 03/05/2002 1:40:08 PM PST by crystalk
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To: blam
Now you may not believe this, but a strong case can be made that the Chinese ( or some other mainland Asian group) established a colony on the Western Mexican coast prior to 1400 A.D. Many artifacts have been found. Also, many every day practices used by the Chinese have been found to be incorporated into the Indian culture there at the time.

Just another fun fact to play with.

84 posted on 03/05/2002 1:54:55 PM PST by Khurkris
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To: Khurkris
"Now you may not believe this, but a strong case can be made that the Chinese ( or some other mainland Asian group) established a colony on the Western Mexican coast prior to 1400 A.D. Many artifacts have been found. Also, many every day practices used by the Chinese have been found to be incorporated into the Indian culture there at the time."

I've read about that. The evidence is strong enough to believe also.

85 posted on 03/05/2002 1:59:33 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Now you may not believe this, but a strong case can be made that the Chinese ( or some other mainland Asian group) established a colony on the Western Mexican coast prior to 1400 A.D. Many artifacts have been found. Also, many every day practices used by the Chinese have been found to be incorporated into the Indian culture there at the time.

Just another fun fact to play with.

86 posted on 03/05/2002 2:03:57 PM PST by Khurkris
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Gods, Graves, Glyphs.
87 posted on 03/06/2002 5:20:06 PM PST by blam
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Gods, Graves, Glyphs"
88 posted on 03/07/2002 7:47:58 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Any idea what he used to determine longitude?
89 posted on 03/07/2002 8:01:19 PM PST by d4now
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To: blam
The origins of the Olmec civilization is one of the most interesting mysteries of ancient America.
In particular, those gigantic stone heads that were dug up.
90 posted on 03/07/2002 8:15:21 PM PST by StormEye
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To: StormEye

Olmec Head 1-S

91 posted on 03/07/2002 8:25:15 PM PST by blam
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To: blam;Gods, Graves, Glyphs;
Fascinating as always!

To find all articles tagged or indexed using 'Gods, Graves, Glyphs'

Click here: 'Gods, Graves, Glyphs'

92 posted on 03/07/2002 8:36:05 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: colorado tanker
What Columbus did not know was how far Europe was from Asia going west from Europe. Had Zheng cirumnavigated the globe, the Chinese would have known that.

The size of the Earth was computed to reasonable accuracy around 250BC by Eratosthenes. That should have given him some kind of clue.

93 posted on 03/07/2002 8:51:21 PM PST by altair
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To: max61
Was America A Phoenician Colony?
94 posted on 03/07/2002 9:03:45 PM PST by blam
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To: JenB
Ancient Site In Newfoundland Offers Clues To Vikings In America
95 posted on 03/07/2002 9:08:06 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Did Europeans discover China?
97 posted on 03/16/2002 5:51:01 AM PST by fnord
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To: fnord
Thanks. I have a book on the mummies. It is, "The Mummies Of Urumchi." A better one on the subject is "The Tarim Basin Mummies, by Victor Mier.
98 posted on 03/16/2002 8:36:35 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
Bump ! Thanks.

99 posted on 08/11/2002 5:58:02 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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2,500 Years Before Columbus
by Patrick Huyghe
[W]hen the last Shang king was defeated and killed by rivals in 1122 B.C., his loyalists were forced to flee to the "East Ocean" or Pacific, notes Xu in his new book, Origin of the Olmec Civilization (University of Central Oklahoma Press, 1996)... Numerous notable Chinese scholars have confirmed Xu's readings of the Olmec inscriptions, including Han Ping Chen, a scholar of ancient Chinese from the Historical Research Institute at the China Social Science Academy. After examining 146 characters and symbols from the Olmec culture, Chen reported: "These symbols, if found or excavated in China (except rock art and carving), would certainly be regarded as prehistoric Chinese characters or symbols. Of 146 symbols, many are 100 percent identical to ancient Chinese characters. Some, I am afraid, can be easily recognized by Chinese first graders in elementary schools..." ...William Boltz of the University of Washington and Robert Bagley of Princeton dismissed as "rubbish" the notion that the characters could be Chinese. The criticism infuriates Xu -- and rightly so, we might add. "Most experts in Olmec studies do not have any idea about ancient Chinese writings and Asian cultures or tradition," says Xu, who was educated in both China and the United States. "How on Earth could they comment on top Chinese scholars reading Chinese as 'rubbish'?"
Chinatown, 1000 B.C.
by Jocelyn Selim
Mike Xu, a linguist at Texas Christian University... has spent years analyzing jade, stone, and pottery relics from the Olmec, an ancient people that inhabited the American Southwest and Central America 3,000 years ago. He was struck by how closely the symbols on the artifacts resembled Chinese inscriptions from the Shang dynasty in China. "There are hundreds of these symbols that occur again and again, throughout the entire Olmec territory," Xu says. The Shang writings date from 1600 to 1100 b.c. Traces of the Olmec civilization abruptly appear during this span, around 1200 to 1100 B.C. Olmec and Shang artistic styles look much alike, and the two cultures followed related religious practices. For instance, both used cinnabar, a red pigment, to decorate ceremonial objects, and both put jade beads in the mouths of the dead to ward off evil. "The similarities are just too striking to be a coincidence," he says.
A tale of two cultures
by Charles Fenyvesi
The Smithsonian's Meggers says that Chen's analysis of the colors "makes sense. But his reading of the text is the clincher. Writing systems are too arbitrary and complex. They cannot be independently reinvented."
The Olmec and the Shang
by Claire Liu
tr. by Robert Taylor
Last year, in a book entitled Origin of the Olmec Civilization, Professor Mike Xu, a Chinese who teaches in the foreign languages department at the University of Central Oklahoma, proposed a hypothesis which aroused a storm of controversy in archeological circles. In Xu's view, the first complex culture in Mesoamerica may have come into existence with the help of a group of Chinese who fled across the seas as refugees at the end of the Shang dynasty. The Olmec civilization arose around 1200 BC, which coincides with the time when King Wu of Zhou attacked and defeated King Zhou, the last Shang ruler, bringing his dynasty to a close.
Origin of the Olmec civilization Origin of the Olmec civilization
by H. Mike Xu
Olmec Riddle: An Inquiry into the Origin of Pre-Columbian Civilization Olmec Riddle:
An Inquiry into the Origin
of Pre-Columbian Civilization

by James Gruener


100 posted on 07/21/2004 11:21:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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