***Mary Frances Berry, Victoria Wilson, Bill Clinton and Tom Daschel***

Stardate: 0112.8

[The Wizard]

As I watch Pearl Harbor tonight, I think about the great shame these people do to those who fought and died for our freedoms:

Freedoms that these people abuse for self interest.

But then there's James and his FreeRepublic.com on the other side of the scale, and that's a mighty heavy weight indeed

[ChaseR]

bttt

[Howlin]

I am not using MY OPINION on this. I am using the plain reading of the text.

No, you're using YOUR interpretation of the plain reading of the text.

Other LEGAL EXPERTS who have read the "plain text" disagree with you. To a person. So far, you'll the only person I've seen saying she has a case.

[donmeaker]

If Wilson was not appointed to fill the rest of the term, then she was not appointed to anything. She did not protest, saying that she wanted a 6 year term, but rather accepted the appointment that she got. I would throw her out using federal marshals. Better yet, if she resists, use deadly force. She is a terrorist, and is usurping authority that is not hers. This would be like FD Roosevelt deciding to not hold elections in 1940. Of course, some advised him not to. He had more sense than that. And then bill her estate for the rental of the federal marshalls.

Ok, don't use the federal marshalls. Rather, publish her address and driver's license number for the people to take direct action against this usurper, and Bob Ashcroft should announce that federal procecuters will not enforce the laws protecting her from action by the people. If a tyrant needs shooting, they need shooting, and the person who does it deserves a medal.

"Politics is force." Bob Heinlein

[Howlin]

Let's not forget that Mary Frances Berry is the one who said that blacks in Florida did not get to the vote -- flying in the face of every fact known to man. -- and still maintained that position when she herself (the little troll) was unable to produce one PERSON or one FACT to back up her assessment during her OWN hearings.

Like I'm going to believe HER interpretation of anything.

[Registered]

Never say ALL when speaking about the law. I am not using MY OPINION on this. I am using the plain reading of the text.

I can understand your interpretation of the law. However, an additional piece of information that works against this interpretation is the GAO Plum Book. Published by the government and reviewed by the US Civil Rights Commission and the Senate Cmte on Governmental Oversight, clearly listed the position as expiring on November 29th, 2001. So, how will Berry explain the fact that she reviewed and accepted the inevitable end to Wilson's time on the board as is listed in the Plum book?? Hmmm? BTW, how do YOU interpret the listing in the GAO Plum Book?

It was clearly printed in the GAO Plum book that Wilson's seat was expiring on November 29,2001. DO THESE FREAKS NEED READING LESSONS?!?!?! WHAT IS GOING ON HERE. GET THE MARSHALS IN THERE TO REMOVE WILSON FROM THE SEAT NOW!!! $123 thousand a year, Wilson should be fined that amount for every day her fat butt sits on that panel!! FREEPERS UNITE!!

[ChaseR]

bttt

[deport]

The Code as I find it now.......

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• U.S.C. TITLE 42 - THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELFARE
  • CHAPTER 20A - CIVIL RIGHTS COMMISSION

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§ 1975. Establishment of Commission

• (a) Generally

  There is established the United States Commission on Civil Rights (hereinafter in this chapter referred to as the "Commission").

• (b) Membership

  The Commission shall be composed of 8 members. Not more than 4 of the members shall at any one time be of the same political party. The initial membership of the Commission shall be the members of the United States Commission on Civil Rights on September 30, 1994. Thereafter vacancies in the membership of the Commission shall continue to be appointed as follows:

  • (1) 4 members of the Commission shall be appointed by the President.
  • (2) 2 members of the Commission shall be appointed by the President pro tempore of the Senate, upon the recommendations of the majority leader and the minority leader, and of the members appointed not more than one shall be appointed from the same political party.
  • (3) 2 members of the Commission shall be appointed by the Speaker of the House of Representatives upon the recommendations of the majority leader and the minority leader, and of the members appointed not more than one shall be appointed from the same political party.
• (c) Terms

  The term of office of each member of the Commission shall be 6 years. The term of each member of the Commission in the initial membership of the Commission shall expire on the date such term would have expired as of September 30, 1994.

• (d) Chairperson
  • (1) Except as provided in paragraphs (2) and (3), the individuals serving as Chairperson and Vice Chairperson of the United States Commission on Civil Rights on September 30, 1994 shall initially fill those roles on the Commission.
  • (2) Thereafter the President may, with the concurrence of a majority of the Commission's members, designate a Chairperson or Vice Chairperson, as the case may be, from among the Commission's members.
  • (3) The President shall, with the concurrence of a majority of the Commission's members, fill a vacancy by designating a Chairperson or Vice Chairperson, as the case may be, from among the Commission's members.
  • (4) The Vice Chairperson shall act in place of the Chairperson in the absence of the Chairperson.
• (e) Removal of members

  The President may remove a member of the Commission only for neglect of duty or malfeasance in office.

• (f) Quorum

  5 members of the Commission constitute a quorum of the Commission.

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and the section notes referring to the above section is as follows:

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Sec. 1975 Accompanying Notes

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SOURCE

(Pub. L. 98-183, Sec. 2, Nov. 30, 1983, 97 Stat. 1301; Pub. L. 102-167, Sec. 5, Nov. 26, 1991, 105 Stat. 1101; Pub. L. 103-419, Sec. 2, Oct. 25, 1994, 108 Stat. 4338.)

PRIOR PROVISIONS

A prior section 1975, Pub. L. 85-315, pt. I, Sec. 101, Sept. 9, 1957, 71 Stat. 634, related to establishment, membership, etc., of Commission on Civil Rights. See Codification note set out preceding this section.

AMENDMENTS

1994 - Pub. L. 103-419 amended section generally, substituting provisions relating to establishment of United States Commission on Civil Rights for provisions relating to Commission on Civil Rights.

1991 - Subsec. (c). Pub. L. 102-167 substituted "Chairperson" for "Chairman" wherever appearing.

SHORT TITLE OF 1994 AMENDMENT

Section 1 of Pub. L. 103-419 provided that: "This Act (amending this section and sections 1975a to 1975d of this title, omitting former sections 1975e and 1975f of this title, and amending provisions set out as a note below) may be cited as the 'Civil Rights Commission Amendments Act of 1994'."

SHORT TITLE OF 1992 AMENDMENT

Pub. L. 102-400, Sec. 1, Oct. 7, 1992, 106 Stat. 1955, provided that: "This Act (amending section 1975e of this title) may be cited as the 'United States Commission on Civil Rights Authorization Act of 1992'."

SHORT TITLE OF 1991 AMENDMENT

Section 1 of Pub. L. 102-167 provided that: "This Act (amending this section and sections 1975a and 1975c to 1975f of this title) may be cited as the 'United States Commission on Civil Rights Reauthorization Act of 1991'."

SHORT TITLE OF 1989 AMENDMENT

Pub. L. 101-180, Sec. 1, Nov. 28, 1989, 103 Stat. 1325, provided that: "This Act (amending sections 1975e and 1975f of this title) may be cited as the 'Civil Rights Commission Reauthorization Act of 1989'."

SHORT TITLE

Section 1 of Pub. L. 98-183, as amended by Pub. L. 103-419, Sec. 2, Oct. 25, 1994, 108 Stat. 4338, provided that: "This Act (enacting this chapter) may be cited as the 'Civil Rights Commission Act of 1983'."

[aristeides]

So apparently President Bush would need the concurrence of a majority of the members of the commission (i.e., at least five) to change the chairman. With the current membership, he's not going to get that.

[VRWC_minion]

So, how will Berry explain the fact that she reviewed and accepted the inevitable end to Wilson's time on the board as is listed in the Plum book?

While looking things up I found the minutes of the house oversight committee and the report form the GAO was devastating. This Commission was/is very poorly run with no accountability. So your finding of this "typo" is par for this committee.

In other words they will plead it was an administrative oversight.

[deport]

And it appears the letter appointing Ms. Wilson also used Nov. 29, 2001 as her expiration date.

A White House official allowed The Washington Times to see the letter appointing Miss Wilson to the commission. The letter, written by a Clinton administration official, states specifically that her membership on the panel would expire Nov. 29, 2001.

[deport]

Apparently so, I don't know when that will occur based upon others reaching their expiration dates. Of course an independent replacing a democrat member that leans or votes with the republicans could turn the tide quicker if a democrat is the next up replacement.

[Registered]

So your finding of this "typo" is par for this committee

So that's your interpretation. It was a typo. Sorry, I don't buy it.

[VRWC_minion]

So that's your interpretation. It was a typo. Sorry, I don't buy it.

But the sheeple, Dan Rather and the Clinton courts will.

[Kryptonite]

Sickening, isn't it?

I say we get rid of the whole darn commission. They have no authority to do anything; all they do is issue reports. Big whoop.

[Kryptonite]

Great minds think alike!

[operation clinton cleanup]

Sounds like case closed to me! But then again you have to deal with Bill Clinton's "fuzzy law" and "fuzzy memory".

[Registered]

But the sheeple...

Well, as long as folks such as yourself are open to this "interpretation" for ignorant and wreckless government officials, you're probably right. If the tables were turned the Dems would have this broadcast on the nightly news as a travesty and abuse of power by a rogue committee chairperson. I'm not budging, and neither should you. It's sad to see that you would even offer them the opportunity to present such a weak argument.

[liliana]

in fact clinton put a date final on his appointment of wilson , that date is nov 21 or 25 2001. so neither berry nor wilson have a leg to stand on.

[VRWC_minion]

Clinton didn't have authority from Congress to limit her term. The simple clear language says her term SHALL be 6 years.

Remember the Florida elections where we argued the Rats argued that Shall means May. We are doing the same thing here.

[TrueReform]

Do you have any information as to pay if any given to these people on the commission. What exactly are they supposed to accomplish.

I wastched the sham they called hearings in Florida. That was ridiculous. How long has Berry been on the commission and how do we get rid of her. As well as the commission.