Why Europe Hates Israel

FREEMAN E-MAIL LIST ^ | November 29, 2001 | By Bret Stephens, an editorial page writer for The Wall Street Journal Europe.

[NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh]

In your own words:
And here are the results of your sickos

As It Was


Sig Date
The date of the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center is shown on a calendar covered in ash on a counter at the Chase Manhattan bank on Broadway

Frozen in Time
A view of Lower Manhattan is seen from Liberty State Park in Jersey City, N.J., Tuesday, Sept. 18, 2001, as the Colgate clock, seen from the reverse side, shows the time to be around 8:48am, EDT.

Children Feel
Signs made by students of the Crossfield Elementary school in Oak Hill, Va., decorate a fence of Unity City at the Pentagon Washington

Melissa Knowles, of Fredericksburg, Va., wipes away a tear as she kneels at America's Unity Wall at the Pentagon in Washington, Friday, Sept. 21, 2001. Pentagon officials erected the wall for relief workers to express themselves.



At Night
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From FLA, in the rain

An unidentified rescue worker looks out onto windows in a building across the street from the World Trade Center

Aerial view

Policeman helps mourner

Pentagon worker


Head Down at WTC

Silhouettes of National Guardsmen viewing the site frame the wreckage of the World Trade Center in New York Thursday morning

Still trying to put out the fire


Union Square Memorial

NYC Children, the Face of Tragedy
Classmates Camille Gonzalez, 11, Stephanie Ambrosio, 10 and Chelsea Grayson, 11, of Valley Stream, N.Y. view the ruins of the World Trade Center for their first time

Erick Robertson, of Oakhurst, Calif., pets Porkchop, a one-year-old search and rescue dog as he receives a dehydration intravenous treatment, Wednesday, Sept. 19, 2001, at the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals mobile clinic just outside ground zero in New York. Robertson and Porkchop have been working at the World Trade Center attack site since Sunday.

Arlene Howard, left, mother of Port Authority Police officer George Howard, holds an American flag as her son's casket is carried into a church for his funeral in Hicksville, N.Y., Wednesday, Sept. 19, 2001. Howard was killed in the World Trade Center terrorist attack on Sept. 11.

U.S. Army Specialist Tony Tirado, right, and International Rescue Brigade worker Kenya Marquez, of Mexico City wait to be transported to the hospital for dehydration treatments Wednesday, Sept. 19, 2001, at the National Disaster Medical Assistance Team's medical tent outside the World Trade Center's terrorist attack ground zero in New York.

Cops

The casket of firefighter Timothy Haskell from New York Rescue Squad 18, is carried from St. William the Abbot Catholic cchurch in Seaford, New York, Wednesday, Sept. 19, 2001. His mother Maureen walks behind the casket. Haskell's body was found Saturday in the World Trade Center wreckage.

Firefighters from Manhattan's Ladder Co. 5, carry the flag draped casket of fellow fireman John Santore as his wife Frances, top center, and daughters Tiana, left, and Mirjana look on, at the conclusion of a funeral service in the New York borough of Staten Island, Wednesday September 19, 2001. Santore was one of many firefighters who lost their lives during the World Trade Center terrorist attack on September 11.

Raul Lopez, a member of the Guardian Angels from Falls Church, Va., waves an American flag while thanking drivers as two dump trucks, rear, leave the Fresh Kills landfill on Staten Island in New York, Tuesday

Plus Jose Gonzalez from Brooklyn

Sporting an American flag Brennan Savage, center, 5-years-old and his father New York City firefighter Brennan Savage Sr., right, of Ladder Co.137 in Queens salute the coffin (unseen) of Captain Walter Hynes of Ladder Co. 13 outside of the St. Francis Roman Catholic Church following a funeral service in New York, Wednesday, Sept. 19, 2001. Hynes was killed during the collapse of the World Trade Center towers which were destroyed after being struck by two planes in a terrorist attack on September 11.

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Gianna Pezzulo looks back at the crowd at Our Lady of Assumption Church during funeral services for her father, Port Authority Police officer Dominick Pezzulo, in New York, Wednesday, Sept. 19, 2001. Pezzulo was killed in the line of duty in the Sept. 11 World Trade Center terrorist attack. Gianna's brother, Dominick Jr. is at left.

Child

Flag and flag

Rudy before he b*tchslapped the Saudi Kinglet.

Officer w/pics found in ruins

Sunrise over Manhattan/from Jersey City

Memorial

Northeast from Manhattan

Early on

My Brother's Shoes
A pair of shoes coated with dust and ash lie amid candles and flowers on New York's Union Square Monday, Sept. 17, 2001 at a memorial for victims of the World Trade Center terrorist attack. The message attached to the shoes is written to Matthew Diaz, saying in part: "I looked for you my union brother, I looked for you my baby brother. I love you Matthew Diaz.
Your brother Michael."

[VaBthang4]

Europe hates everything that stands for anything.

[Scott from the Left Coast]

The State of Israel has never lost a war or surrendered to their enemies before even being attacked. No European country can quite rightly make such a claim.

Not to deny your overall point -- which I both understand and agree with -- but I must say that neither Britain nor Germany (formerly Prussia) can ever be said to have surrendured prior to being attacked. And I cannot even imagine it in their national nature to ever do so, any more than I can imagine it in Israel's nature to do so.

I may have many issues with the political positions taken vis-a-vis Israel by both of these nations at various times, however, I can never apply to them the cowardly behavior that has often been the policy of nations such as France or Italy.

[Brian Allen]

Thank you. A brilliant piece; except -- and notwithsatnding that it touched upon it -- in that it complicates its seeking to understand a rationalization and justification of the common, underlying, British/European envy-motivated and hatred and rage-engined attitude toward Israel.

The reality is much simpler: Israel is percieved as FReedom-loving America's "Baby."

And America is the real target of the quite palpable European hatred whose spill washes over Israel.

[dennisw]

Just more blood for the Osama Bin Laden amen corner. The deranged victimology of the Islam first gang.

[Brian Allen]

Long dead and decadent

Europeans hate everything that stands for anything.

And especially they hate that for them, it's over and for US -- and those who, like the brave and wonderful people of Israel, who follow US -- it has barely even begun!!

Shalom! Shalom!

[dennisw]

I trace it to the atheistic socialiasm the Euros love so much. No God for them. Would be inconvenient!

[Brian Allen]

I trace it to the atheistic socialiasm the Euros love so much. No God for them. Would be inconvenient!

And yet not long ago their religion was their one redeming characteristic -- and gave them Character.

And now, in London for example, several times more moslems attend mosque on a weekly basis, than Anglicans attend Church of England services.

God save them!

And me God save US -- and Israel -- from them!

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[tonycavanagh]

Brian Allen I have come to the conclusion that there are two Brian Allen's one talk reasonable sense the other complete bollox, which is also what I think of this article dennisw.

I know in America it is considered a game to shout look at me I am such a victim everyone hates me well boo f*****g hoo.

And before you try ant Jew Hating crap with me, I volunteered some of my time to a mate to help train members of the JDL in unarmed Combat to help protect them against the local Nazis.

I guess stones and glass houses mean nothing to you.

Cheers my friends Tony

[tonycavanagh]

re : And now, in London for example, several times more moslems attend mosque on a weekly basis, than Anglicans attend Church of England services.

Come on facts to back yup this bollox, in a nation of around 60 million less than a million are Muslim.

Shaking his head in amazement, one day we night get a decent debate going instead of a mud and wild accusation throwing competition.

Tony

[tonycavanagh]

re : All Jews should get out of Europe now, before it's too late.

LOL What total bollox, I thought from past experience you had a bit of common, but you are as bad as a lot of the others hear a load of gossiping mincing sheep bleating and bahing at the latest noise.

Look out the sky is falling.

Cheers and a cheerful guffaw Tony

[AmericaUnited]

I trace it to the atheistic socialiasm the Euros love so much. No God for them.

BINGO! "Give that man the cupie doll."

Those that hate God, hate Israel. It's that simple.

[tonycavanagh]

re : Those that hate God, hate Israel. It's that simple.

Pardon my French but that is complete and utter bollox.

Funny isn’t it there are European soldiers including a few of my old buddies and lads who I trained are out there at the moment.

I bet they will be tickled pink when they come back well those who do and I tell them of all the American REMFS did there bit by slagging them of.

I hear GOD hates fat people which means what percent of the American population.

Tony

[backhoe]

This article contains some valuable information.... I can well recall that once, years ago, the press in general viewed Israel with open admiration, and also recall that this switched 180 degrees at some point. My personal recollection placed this shift "at or before the 1973 Oil Embargo," but this:

This fondness, however, evaporated after the 1967 war, when Israel went from being the Middle East's underdog to its Goliath,

shows that it happened earlier.

[bluester]

Apparently no Israeli citizen can be a war criminal even though there is clear evidence of such acts.

And the most absurd thing is that because they want to put Sharon on trial, it means that Europeans are antisemits, Israel haters etc?!? I sense a very similar logic with Milosevic, where some desperately wanted to equate Milosevic with Serbia itself, so that by taking Milosevic to trial Serbia was supposed to be put on trial as a whole. Well, thats pure BS.

It's about INDIVIDUALS, not entire nations, and to all those saying that Europeans hate Israel and Jews because of this, you need to get a grip. I surely don't hate Jews, my grandfather shared their fate in Dachau in WW2, but that doesn't mean I am going to defend someone with blood on his hands because of his ethnicity, relgion, background, or because of what happened to his people in WW2. It's not as simple as that. You cannot get some carto bianco, and do whatever you wish because you'r a Jew, or a European, or an American, or a Palestinian. You have to take responsibility for your actions, no matter where you come from.

There I hope I was clear enough. :)

[vrwc54]

Thanks for the ping. I recently got a satellite dish and receive the BBC. It's anti-Israeli stance makes CNN look good in comparison.

[tonycavanagh]

re : And the most absurd thing is that because they want to put Sharon on trial.

Notice they did not mention that Yasser Arafat has also been indicted and Fidel Castro.

What happens in war happens, war is brutal and counter insurgency wars can be amongst the most brutal.

What I cant stand, what really sticks in my throat is this holier than thou cr*p you get from some on this site, that and the hypocrisy.

Its alright for them to hate as much as possible, they hate like little spoilt teenagers all passion and emotion, and like little spoilt teenagers they scream and throw hissey fits if anyone dares even look at them in the wrong way.

Cheers Tony

[tonycavanagh]

re : It's anti-Israeli stance makes CNN look good in comparison.

Being English I get the BBC everyday give me an example of its anti Israeli stance.

Tony

[Patria One]

Wouldn't you think that after having such a horrible time of it in Europe for 1500 years that the refugees to Palestine would have made peace with he Palestinians early on?

dennisw said it so well yesterday..something like "its the European's fault that they drove us out to Palestine where we have to deal with the psycho Palestinians."