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Why Europe Hates Israel
FREEMAN E-MAIL LIST ^ | November 29, 2001 | By Bret Stephens, an editorial page writer for The Wall Street Journal Europe.

Posted on 11/29/2001 3:56:50 PM PST by dennisw

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To: dennisw
"This is an old timey Jew hunt done up Euro style. The same European continent that killed off 6,000,000 Jews in WW2. Thus forcing a million Jews into Palestine where Jews now have to contend with Arab psychos.

Actually not a bad deal because Jews are armed this time around. Well armed so stand back is what I advise the Arab (would be) destroyers of Israel the Jewish home.

43 posted on 11/29/01 4:02 PM Pacific by dennisw"

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(I didn't mean to misquote you)

41 posted on 11/30/2001 3:25:16 AM PST by Patria One
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To: tonycavanagh
Tony, perfectly said! :)
42 posted on 11/30/2001 3:27:42 AM PST by bluester
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To: Patria One
dennisw said it so well yesterday..something like "its the European's fault that they drove us out to Palestine where we have to deal with the psycho Palestinians."

I  have often heard the Arabs say this: "Look Europe! After WW2 you dropped your Jewish problem right into our laps and it's not fair!" I don't agree but this has been said many times. You are making the common mistake of thinking Israel is just a Euro-Jewish enterprise. This cannot be when 43% of Israelis are the Jews who were booted from Arab nations (most) after 1948. Some of this 43% came even before 1948, before WW2, due to mistreatment in Arab nations and due to plain old Zionism.

43 posted on 11/30/2001 4:09:46 AM PST by dennisw
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To: vrwc54
Dish? Sounds cool! I'm sure the BBC is good on some coverage but the place has always been a haven for leftist Brits. So coverage on Israel and the MidEast will be slanted to the anti Israel side.
44 posted on 11/30/2001 4:12:14 AM PST by dennisw
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To: tonycavanagh
Come on Tony. Wasn't the head of your Anglican church complaining a few months ago about the very low church attendance in the UK?
45 posted on 11/30/2001 4:16:06 AM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw
re : Come on Tony. Wasn't the head of your Anglican church complaining a few months ago about the very low church attendance in the UK?

LOL I saw you had Emailed me and I was expecting a reply on whether Youropeans hate Jews or not, not about Church attendance, they are always complaining about church attendance, more bums on seats means more money in the collecting plate.

The Anglican church are doing very well they own at least a third of the city and surrounding west end and the head sky pilot’s always get to go to the best bashes.

Muslims don’t see the Mosque the way we look at a Church its is also a social club where they go to have a natter.

Now if you said that Mosque attendance beat pub attendance then I would be worried.

Cheers for giving me a laugh Tony

46 posted on 11/30/2001 4:26:00 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: Patria One
1947 encyclopedia map of Middle-East......


47 posted on 11/30/2001 4:29:05 AM PST by Fred25
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To: tonycavanagh; dennisw; veronica
..... one day we night get a decent debate going instead of a mud and wild accusation throwing .....

Good-oh then, Tony.

Let us know when you're capable of that -- but if you don't mind i shan't, meanwhile, be holding my breath.

And, just so you'll have a place to start, you might be a little less intemperate, scathing and scornful in your slings at My America and at we Americans. Your very own prejudices are showing!

For myself though, for having taken your mate, Britain's self-appointed spruiker and little-Hitler-like online shopkeeper, to task a couple or six times for the arrant stupidity and fundamental dishonesty of some of his more ridiculous [But linked notwithstanding to his online toby-jug, totes and t-shirt shop] assertions as to once great Britain's capabilities and Turd-Way Benn-Blair's motives -- I've had a bit of a flogging in the form of the flinging of obscenities and other forms of personal attack lately around the buy our t-shirts, poofter-bags and toby-jugs sites -- and am not much interested in continuing down that road.

We Americans [Perhaps you've noticed?] once again find ourselves with a world full of bloody nutters to rescue from themselves -- and from Evil bloody pre-medieval monsters of their creation!

Toodle-Oo, Tones.

Cordially

Brian

[PS: Insofar as my remarks vis-a-vis the attendance at mosques and Church of England services in Greater London are concerned,I am comfortable with my source and with my facts. If you would care to refute either or both with other than a taking of my inventory and some empty waffling about a million moslems in a country of sixty millions please give it your best shot. And good luck with the research. Best ones -- Brian]

48 posted on 11/30/2001 4:34:48 AM PST by Brian Allen
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To: tonycavanagh
Europe is anti Semitic compared to America. America supports Israel more than Europe does. No accident that Areil Sharon is being harassed in Belgium. F 'em!

UK is offshore and is better than the rest of Europe.

49 posted on 11/30/2001 4:35:08 AM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw
re : Europe is anti Semitic compared to America. America supports Israel more than Europe does. No accident that Areil Sharon is being harassed in Belgium. F 'em!.

I don’t think Europe on the whole is anti Semitic, I agree that the American Government is backing Israel whole heartedly accept when its Arab coalition building time.

But America has more than her fair share of anti Semitics, after all who gave us Zionist Occupation Government. And a lot of the Holohoax material comes from America. Jew watch is an American site which blames Jews for Communism

As for Belgium, the same legal apparatus used to pick on Sharon is also being used against Arafat and Fidel Castro.

Europe is not one country or one people there are many different cultures and groupings.

If I was you I would spend an equal amount of time watching your back as much as your front.

I like Europeans my wife is German and I have some very good mates from various European countries.

I agree that there have been many articles critical of Israel some deserved some not deserved, you should of read the American press on my countries involvement in North Ireland, but not many of us thought of American as being English haters, the press is just the press and politicians are just politicians.

Cheers Tony

50 posted on 11/30/2001 4:47:24 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: Brian Allen
re : Let us know when you're capable of that -- but if you don't mind i shan't, meanwhile, be holding my breath.

Oh go on please you look so sweet jumping up and down with your little red face all screwed up as you scream and shout about those nasty British.

I am glad you are I am comfortable with your source and with your facts, the big bumper book of youropeans and there nasty ways, and its your book and no one else is allowed to see, especially a nasty English man like Tony who just mocks and sneers.

Snigger Tony

51 posted on 11/30/2001 4:52:45 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: dennisw
Actually islael was created by europeans to get rid of

Jews from europe. Europeans were really never against

ethnic cleansing of Jews by Hitler.

All the nazi occupied contries (poland, france, italy ...) were

tacitly helping nazies in this regard.

52 posted on 11/30/2001 4:53:36 AM PST by y2k_citizen
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To: dennisw
Why Europe Hates Israel...

Because bagels blow away baggets and the French are completely indignant about it? *sigh*

Because Israel was never confronted with a struggle to overcome the dark secrets of personal hygeine where continental Europe is still working on the basic theory?

I'm on target with at least one of these, help me out, people.

53 posted on 11/30/2001 4:59:46 AM PST by Caipirabob
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To: Yakboy
What it really meant was that Why Europe Hates Israel golf players who keep digging up the turf when attempting a swing.

Cheers Tony

54 posted on 11/30/2001 5:03:17 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: dennisw
btt
55 posted on 11/30/2001 5:16:33 AM PST by harpseal
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To: Patria One
Wouldn't you think that after having such a horrible time of it in Europe for 1500 years that the refugees to Palestine would have made peace with he Palestinians early on?

The Jews' time in Europe was roughly as bad as it was in Arab Islamic lands for 12 centuries. And while the Jews achieved for the most part freedom and protection from the modern European states in the 18th century and onward the Arab Islamic lands continued to persecute and abuse their dhimmi Jews and indeed fought against the Ottoman Empire's forced changes on the dhimma issue because of Britain and France. Hence, the Arab Islamic lands have always been oppressive to the dhimmi Jew and of course their lands are largely cleansed of any Jews present day. So don't give me this crap. The "Palestinians"' were a hodge-podge by the twentieth century of Arabs and other Islamics from all over the place. It was the Arab nationalism which started the strife and riots against the Jews. The Jews were merely protecting themselves from the likes of the Grand Mufti and his clan of fascists.

56 posted on 11/30/2001 5:19:40 AM PST by Lent
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To: tonycavanagh
Rest assured that I don't group Great Britain along with the rest of continental Europe in my thoughts here. On the contrary, I respect your country for it's obvious tolerance in putting up with France all these years.

I would never lightly disparrage a country that created my most beloved drought, India Pale Ale. : )

57 posted on 11/30/2001 5:39:59 AM PST by Caipirabob
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To: tonycavanagh
Yaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnzzzzzzzzzzzzzz .....
58 posted on 11/30/2001 5:50:00 AM PST by Brian Allen
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To: Brian Allen
Afternoon nap time alwaedy go on then and if you are good Nanny might read you some more Harry Potter.

Cheers have a good weekend flame you I mean exchange meaningful dialogue on Monday.

Cheers Tony

59 posted on 11/30/2001 5:56:55 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: Yakboy
Dam you did not see that I had lifted Golfing story from your home page.

creating divits should be a capital crime.

Cheers Tony

60 posted on 11/30/2001 5:58:51 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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