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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
Two thumbs up for keeping it going!
521 posted on 11/28/2001 9:43:33 PM PST by nutmeg
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To: DCBryan1
I donate 10 bucks a month via credit card and never even notice it. I also contribute to the Freepathons. I can obtain the same news I receive from Free Republic by going to many different sites. There is no site on the web where the news is reported and then dissected in detail as is here on Free Republic.

You may or may not agree with what is reported and dissected but it does get reported and debated as opposed to the news media.

Is it time for Free Republic to go away? HELL NO.

522 posted on 11/28/2001 9:43:41 PM PST by cpdiii
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To: gjenkins
Enough with the 2112 already!>>>>

Are you kidding me? LOL...that album is so perfect for what is going on here! :)

523 posted on 11/28/2001 9:44:32 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: pattycake
I didnt say give it up
524 posted on 11/28/2001 9:45:56 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
I don't want to make a contribution so small that it wouldn't be worthwhile to FR, but at this time it would have to be only a few dollars/month

geez, I mail them a $5 bill each month (i started 4 months ago)

525 posted on 11/28/2001 9:46:31 PM PST by GeronL
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To: 1John; A Citizen Reporter; ABG(anybody but Gore); arazitjh; b4its2late; bamafour; bevlar...
A mega-ping to avid Freepers ..... I apologize to those of you who have already seen this thread for calling you here again.
526 posted on 11/28/2001 9:46:43 PM PST by kayak
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To: Buckeroo
Give it a rest. Nobody is trying to control you or deny you your right to Free Speech. You've just grumpy because your guy didn't win anything.
527 posted on 11/28/2001 9:46:45 PM PST by Howlin
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To: nunya bidness
Where is the money for the radio network coming from?

I had always thought that you knew what was going on and liked to kid. Do you really think that Free Republic Network has something to do with a broadcast network? For real??

528 posted on 11/28/2001 9:48:13 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Registered
I wonder Jim, if we all made a pact not to ever visit or pay attention to the naysayers, I'd say they would simply eat away at each other. You can count on my support of Free Republic, in spirit and wallet.

LOL, I made that pact with myself a long time ago, I used to peek in on them now and then, but they have nothing going for them other than their anti FR snits.......... boooring, they are not even in my bookmarks anymore.

529 posted on 11/28/2001 9:48:58 PM PST by Great Dane
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To: BluesDuke
Nah. If his 1966 computer could have predicted the Clinton Scandals, it could only have been...a Uniblab.

Uh, wouldn't that be "uniblow"?

531 posted on 11/28/2001 9:49:42 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: Arator
Jim Rob claims to value freedom. But the way he manages his forum screams otherwise.

You're 100% wrong. He's free to run his website however he sees fit. If you liked it and you send a donation, then it was a donation: No questions asked, no refunds, non-returnable, gift.

Completely unmoderated fora get unreadable. Try reading Usenet these days without a 0.5 MB killfile.

532 posted on 11/28/2001 9:49:44 PM PST by Liberal Classic
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To: Jim Robinson
Keep it going Jim. If you need any financial support let me know.

This website was very instrumental in my "conversion" to the GOP. With me being from California, AND Mexican, we both know how miraculous that was....Your website is clearly needed.

533 posted on 11/28/2001 9:49:57 PM PST by electron1
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To: Howlin
Now you have pissed me off, Linda. Have *YOU* turned into a Freeper ( some old troll that rides the back of a complaint department?)

I always thought you had more than some spray upon your blonde hair. Guess I was wrong.

534 posted on 11/28/2001 9:50:15 PM PST by Buckeroo
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To: Jim Robinson
Cost of PC = $1200
Monthly Cable Internet Access fee (for faster Refresh time) = $39.95
Being part of the BEST news forum on the web = PRICELESS

And yet, the monthly subscription fee to post/lurk on FR remains $0 (Fellow FReepers, let this be a reminder to keep the donations coming)

Thank you, Jim Robinson.
535 posted on 11/28/2001 9:50:56 PM PST by Calico
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To: sinkspur
I'm one of the meanest SOB's on this site, and I know enough to avoid getting banned.

:-}}}}}

537 posted on 11/28/2001 9:52:09 PM PST by Great Dane
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To: Howlin
Re: your posts #476 & #483

I hear ya. Noticed that a lot while lurking, especially. It took me a while to get registered, largely because the "whiney posts" turned me off. Made me wonder, "These people call themselves Conservatives?" But in the end, happily, the impression left by the much more "grace-full" posts won out. :)

But, to a few, perhaps this very post does not matter. To them I ever-so-humbly ask:

Is there a cut-off Date of Membership for having a differing opinion?
538 posted on 11/28/2001 9:53:51 PM PST by k2blader
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To: Snow Bunny
SB tell me how you really feel? :)
539 posted on 11/28/2001 9:54:35 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: Jim Robinson
I'd be lost without this site, Jim. I do a monthly now, but am willing to pony more dollars up to keep the service alive. It's a crucial part of the web. Just point us where to give.
540 posted on 11/28/2001 9:54:37 PM PST by SoDak
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