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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Lazamataz; Jim Robinson; John Robinson
Well put Laz.... I am happy with the product here, and pay what I think is a fair price every month.

I pay because the site has value. I hope all who keep the site running are well paid, they deserve to be. They can spend it any way they like! I just don't care. Why others care is a mystery to me.
3,601 posted on 08/05/2002 7:40:04 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Registered
Glad to see you back.
3,602 posted on 08/05/2002 7:40:35 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Peach
Of course there's also: We The People

Where there IS NO FR mentioned! And NO ANTI anything except liberalism...

3,603 posted on 08/05/2002 7:42:25 PM PDT by No!
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To: Yehuda; Jim Robinson
Can I vote "Not Proven?"LOL
3,604 posted on 08/05/2002 7:52:53 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: VRWC_minion
...we could all go back to work without having to constantly look over our shoulders.

They aren't looking over your shoulder -- they're looking at your access logs....

http://www.freerepublic.com/----VRWC_minion
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http://www.freerepublic.com/----VRWC_minion
http://www.freerepublic.com/----VRWC_minion
http://www.freerepublic.com/----VRWC_minion
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See ya!

3,605 posted on 08/05/2002 7:53:54 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Jim Robinson
I have been criticized on FR for not being as supportive of Alan Keyes as I used to be...it bothers me...but life without FR would be unthinkable. Be encouraged JR.
3,606 posted on 08/05/2002 7:54:36 PM PDT by God'sgrrl
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To: justshe
No sweat!

I just hope people understand that if there were no disruptors, we would not be doing anything important.

But ... because there are disruptors, we must be on the right track.
3,607 posted on 08/05/2002 7:55:46 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: Wingsofgold
I have been supportin this site for some time now. Whazza madda? Somebody after Robinson? I'm not here much 'n don't "get it" on alot of this hammerin Robinson/bash Bush stuff. Both of 'em are doin a fine job seems ta me.

You is a good poster two!

3,608 posted on 08/05/2002 7:56:21 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Jim Robinson
I love you, man. Keep it goin'. Liberalism is a cancer and we can't let it kill the patient. There won't be a cure found in my lifetime, but if we can keep cutting away the cancerous tumors whereever they may be found, we'll lick it!
3,609 posted on 08/05/2002 7:58:17 PM PDT by AngrySpud
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To: Jim Robinson
The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air.

I'm sure some of the more IT-savvy Freepers can back this up. I'm not worried about it.

3,610 posted on 08/05/2002 7:58:57 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Jim Robinson
I think FR has improved dramatically over the past few months in several ways. One is that there is now more open discusions of controversial topics, and the moderators appear to be fair and even handed in their actions. Another improvement is all of the fine work that John has put in to updating FR. It IS better than the old format, as is plainly obvious.

Keep up the great work Jim, I salute you for all of your efforts.

3,611 posted on 08/05/2002 7:59:06 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Great Dane
Registered is not back. That post was from 11/28/01, when this thread was first started.

His suspension is over I believe, but he has not posted since July 26.
(not sure if you knew that or were making some sort of joke)

3,612 posted on 08/05/2002 8:00:06 PM PDT by kcpopps
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, thanks for all your work in maintaining the forum. I'm a reader not a writer, so haven't posted much. Kinda like the kid who finally spoke at breakfast one morning, after being silent for a number of years, "Up to now everything has been ok."

Why not set up a monthly(annual) subscription plan?

3,613 posted on 08/05/2002 8:10:20 PM PDT by UpToHere
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To: wotan
"... I believe the genesis of the Palestinian problem was the invasion of Palestine at the end of World War II..."

Try reading the Bible a bit. With the knowledge that you gain, perhaps you can avoid making silly statements like the above.
The problem is ancient. - It began when Esau traded his birthright for a warm meal.

3,614 posted on 08/05/2002 8:23:50 PM PDT by editor-surveyor
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Yes our old "friend" Arator is on the ball.
I'd like to say I miss him...I really would like to but I can't.
3,615 posted on 08/05/2002 8:29:42 PM PDT by Valin
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To: rintense
LOL.
3,616 posted on 08/05/2002 8:32:52 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP
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To: angelo
Have you spent any time in the [LibertyPost] news forum, or have you just gone slumming in the "biker bar"?

I visited both places and found Cal posting in the news forum trying to make inroads, however she ain't making no progress. She bad-mouthed FR to Hannity to the extent he felt justified in putting down FR on his radio show last week. Doesn't seem that the Keyes shirt is welcome over there, either.

Whoo Hooo, LOL, HUGS, hehe.

3,617 posted on 08/05/2002 8:33:51 PM PDT by Cai Della
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To: rintense
Wow! What a loooong thread! I will vote again for FR to stay forever like this thread has!
3,618 posted on 08/05/2002 8:35:04 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Jim Robinson
I thought we already said no whys this thread still here

Jim you and john and the others do a great job on here once again thanx and keep up the great work !!!

PUNK

3,619 posted on 08/05/2002 8:52:58 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: editor-surveyor
It began when Esau traded his birthright for a warm meal.

you, unlike esau, are wise. some, however, have blamed eve for the apple thingy...

3,620 posted on 08/05/2002 8:53:30 PM PDT by mlocher
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