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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would be critical of this web site. Thanks for all that you and your family have sacrificed to make FreeRepublic possible.
261 posted on 11/28/2001 8:20:56 PM PST by Rocky
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To: Jim Robinson
I have been registered here for a year and a half, lurked for a year and a half before that. Also, I am a monthly contributor who feels it is the best money I spend all month.

I live in Oregon (Portland metro area). Before I found FR, I didn't know there were other conservatives in Oregon!

Dang it, Jim...FR is my security blanket! Please don't go...

262 posted on 11/28/2001 8:21:14 PM PST by dixiechick2000
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To: Jim Robinson
Hi Jim, When your in charge they kick you and they kick you hard,but the best part is when your real friends hold you up.I can do 25.00 every 3 months.
263 posted on 11/28/2001 8:21:30 PM PST by fatima
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To: Jim Robinson
1. 10 to 20 dollars a month minimum for unlimited use, with an option to voluntarily increase fees. Example: I'm in college and unemployed, living off my savings, so I'll pay what I can now, and when I hit the "big time" I can "step up the ca$h flow"...

2. I don't know if you do this, but how 'bout FreeRepublic hats, (one with the eagle logo, and one with that top of each page "letterhead") jackets, and of course, the ubiquitous coffee mug. (in large and crack addict sizes) I'd buy some of that stuff!

I don't think that stuff is cheesy, or "capitalist pig-ish" or anything like that... Neither are additional freepathons. I'm making a donation right now. This site means a lot to me. I do not want to see it go. Thank you Jim, for TRULY making our world a better place!

264 posted on 11/28/2001 8:21:59 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: Jim Robinson
I thank you for providing FR free of charge. I suppose I am not alone in donating exclusively to organizations that provide financial data to prospective donors. If this is a non-profit then open books are not much to ask. If it is not a non-profit, then I still love FR and hope it remains free of charge.
265 posted on 11/28/2001 8:22:16 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Silly
There's a time and a place to be silly.

This is neither the time, nor the place.

266 posted on 11/28/2001 8:22:27 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Jim Robinson
PLEASE SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR JIM AND FREE REPUBLIC
WITH YOUR CREDIT CARD AND DONATE TODAY!

DONATE HERE


267 posted on 11/28/2001 8:22:30 PM PST by Reagan is King
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To: nopardons
There is NOTHING of political, nor cultural value, in thread after thread (about) Harry Potter (and) which music FREEPERS (prefer) . .

Culture is all-embracing, and threads of the kind you mention help dispel the canard that conservatism is monolithic, dull, rigid and oppressive.

Well, most of them do.

268 posted on 11/28/2001 8:23:23 PM PST by alcuin
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To: Jim Robinson
Of late I FREEP sporadically at best, in part because of work obligations and in part because I have begun work on writing my first book. But whatever the differences between us on the right, this much at least can be said: FreeRepublic versus its enemies is rather as George Will once described Robert Bork versus his: a great blue whale being attacked by anchovies. Long may this great blue whale swim!!
269 posted on 11/28/2001 8:23:32 PM PST by BluesDuke
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Who is Eschoir? A disgrunteld FReeper? Details?
270 posted on 11/28/2001 8:23:33 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Jim Robinson; John Robinson
Jim, anytime I can do ANYTHING to help, just holler.
I have told John before I am also a co-owner and webmaster of some commercial sites,
one of which has been on line since 11/17/97.
Any services I can offer would always be free to you.
271 posted on 11/28/2001 8:23:41 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: glf
Support FreeRepublic BY CLICKING HERE for secure credit card, or send your checks or money orders to: FreeRepublic , LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
272 posted on 11/28/2001 8:24:05 PM PST by WillaJohns
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To: Jim Robinson
This site is A BIG FAT LIE!

What I'm really saying is that it's too good to be true!
Thanks for all you have done for us, Jim, and keep doing it your way.
:-)
273 posted on 11/28/2001 8:24:23 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, it is time to turn FR into a real business. The only way to continue your dream is to take the next step. There are at least 3 ways...

1)Baisc Subscription (general access)
2)Premium Subscription (special access)
3)Advertising

You could easily do the same type of banner stuff Drudge does. Also/or you can do affiliate stuff, maybe ceate a 'sponsor' section to feature the sites you are an affiliate of.

Sorry, but the donation thing won't cut it long term.
275 posted on 11/28/2001 8:24:32 PM PST by notfondajane
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To: StormEye
Keep this site running. It's been too successful against the liberal DemonRATS. That's why it they hate FreeRepublic so much. If it takes a monthly fee to run it, then so be it. And thanks for this terrific conservative site! On to more conquests!

Bingo! Look at what happened when FReepers showed up down in Florida. I'll never forget how proud I was of those wonderful FReepers. Sore/Loserman.

276 posted on 11/28/2001 8:24:52 PM PST by The Real Deal
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To: Hildy; BADJOE
Joe, I'm going to NY on Saturday. Put me down for $200...do I have to repledge, or can you just use the Credit card on file?

Same question here, Joe. Do I have to repledge, or can you just put it on Hildy's credit card?

(Just kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

277 posted on 11/28/2001 8:25:00 PM PST by LJLucido
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To: sinkspur
LOL - How much ya wanna bet he wouldn't pony up if only he were required to subscribe? From a Randian to a Civil Rights activist in an instant!
278 posted on 11/28/2001 8:25:18 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, I am more of a "lurker" than a poster, but I just love Free Republic. It has carried me/us through so many crises over the past few years. This and a few other sites are the only knowledgeable, conservative sites on the Internet that I know of. One of the things that makes Free Republic so much better than the others is the quality of the "experts" who respond to the articles. The other sites I've checked give emotions rather than facts. For examples: With the Elian atrosity, there were posters who had access to Spanish papers and could get news the rest of us couldn't. Just recently when the skybus crashed into the New York community, there were people who work(ed) with all facets of planes, their construction, their maintenence, how they handle, the physics of the instability of the winds from the plane in front, and so on. Where else could you get this type of expert knowledge? The average person (me, for instance) wouldn't even know what to look for, much less understand it if I did find it. Do WE need it? I would miss it terribly. This site is my anchor in very unstable times. I check it at least once a day.
280 posted on 11/28/2001 8:26:02 PM PST by Humal
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