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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, you are the American success story. I hope and pray you stay. We need FR and we need you.
1,721 posted on 11/29/2001 1:35:15 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim,

You listed an amount for management and other expenses. I think that you're entitled to a salary, but I'm curious about how much you get to keep from all of this.

Having said that, I'm all for keeping FR alive and strong. LONG LIVE FREE REPUBLIC.

1,722 posted on 11/29/2001 1:36:34 PM PST by AZPubbie
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To: Bob J
"For the malcontentents and cretins at the AF sites to claim otherwise is a lie and slanderous and one day may end them up in court themselves. As soon as we get around to deciding if they are worth it..."

Will you be using the services of W&S again? If so, do you plan to ask if they'll just "put it on the tab"?

hehehe

1,723 posted on 11/29/2001 1:37:00 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: BRL
Thank you for your opinions.
1,724 posted on 11/29/2001 1:39:07 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Bob J
What happened to the 30% of the budget that's used to cover Bob J's ass when he makes a couple of really stupid statements while he's drunk?
1,725 posted on 11/29/2001 1:39:23 PM PST by Sam Spade
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To: Jim Robinson
To paraphrse Limbaugh...if they don't like it then they should start their own damn forum and let's see if they can do better.

Drive on JR. Stay the course.

1,726 posted on 11/29/2001 1:39:39 PM PST by frei_staat
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To: Jim Robinson
It's time for another March On Washington...not a time for fading away.
1,727 posted on 11/29/2001 1:40:29 PM PST by SuperLuminal
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To: Sam Spade
Huh?
1,728 posted on 11/29/2001 1:42:35 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: ~EagleNebula~
Now you know I already put my 2 cents in dont you? *grin* thousand or so ago.....ya gotta get up early or go to bed late as they say :>)
1,729 posted on 11/29/2001 1:42:42 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Gargantua; Arator
It's no act. Arator is much more a part of FreeRepublic than you, and that the sheep here might bleat in fevered denial changes that fact not one iota. You included.

I obviously haven't been at this site as long as either as you, but frankly, neither of you have impressed me very much. Perhaps if you stopped calling anybody who disagreed with you names like "sheep" and "Bushies" and "goose-stepping globalist goons," you might have more of an influence upon others in this forum. Right now, you just look like crybabies who can't take the heat.

1,730 posted on 11/29/2001 1:43:08 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: deport; Jim Robinson
Thanks for the ping.

Free Republic is like a lifeboat and a friend and anything but a fraud. Not only does it provide an outlet for many of us to discuss current issues and deliver news, but it is therapeutic. Those of us that are interested in the offerings of FR have a refuge here and the thought of its absence makes me shudder. Long may it live !!!!!!!!! I'll be mailing a donation tomorrow.

1,731 posted on 11/29/2001 1:44:45 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: RightOnline
Well damn, darlin'.............I'll call ya, then. Just send that big ol' husband o' yours out of the house..................

:-)

Why, thank you, RO, but you know how I'm all talk (just like you!). I was just trying to fit in with the decor of the thread. This IS the "Time-to-Whine" Thread, isn't it?!

Besides, your lovely, gracious and beautiful wife would promptly rearrange my face and I'm sort of attached to it. ;-)

1,732 posted on 11/29/2001 1:45:52 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: Howlin
BTW, I see I am not the ONLY one on here who thinks you're a fraud and a liar.

Yes, the same crowd of FReeper disrupters who did their level best to troll Reunion to death (harrowup, TLBSHOW, JenLart, Lazamataz etc.) will no doubt join your chorus.

It's really a simple equation: Fear of banishment = Obsequious sucking up to Jim Rob = Attacking anyone Jim Rob designates as "the enemy" to prove one's devotion and to render oneself banishment-proof = Conspicuously railing on Arator for anything and everything, real or imagined, especially on a thread Jim Rob may frequent

I understand the desperate ploys of the slavishly insecure. Thanks to my public dissent, I have become the instrument for many to prove their bone fides with their would-be "master". Consequently, I regard all these silly and bogus attacks against me to be exactly that, and I do not take them personally.

I hope that your Arator-bashing merit badge earns you many a censorship/banishment free day of FReeping. If so, at least you all will be partially compensated for your own loss of personal integrity, decency, dignity, and self respect.

1,734 posted on 11/29/2001 1:47:14 PM PST by Arator
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To: BeforeISleep
Thanks. Personally, when I give money to someone, I always do so with the understanding that it is no longer mine and can be spent for any purpose the recipient pleases. (Unless a claim is made that 100% will go to a specific purpose, like many charities have done recently).
1,735 posted on 11/29/2001 1:48:28 PM PST by Helix
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To: Jim Robinson
For the common good:

Any service has a perceived or intrisic value. It's simply worth what it is worth to you.

It is not your concern how the site is administered as long as the service is of value to you.

Jim could be stuffing your money up his nose and it is not your concern as long as the service has value to you and you give Jim no more money than you think the service is worth.

1,736 posted on 11/29/2001 1:50:30 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: .45MAN
ping!
1,737 posted on 11/29/2001 1:50:40 PM PST by dansangel
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To: Jim Robinson
I vote we keep going.
1,738 posted on 11/29/2001 1:51:42 PM PST by bmwcyle
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To: sistergoldenhair
ping
1,740 posted on 11/29/2001 1:52:36 PM PST by facedown
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