I obviously haven't been at this site as long as either as you, but frankly, neither of you have impressed me very much. Perhaps if you stopped calling anybody who disagreed with you names like "sheep" and "Bushies" and "goose-stepping globalist goons," you might have more of an influence upon others in this forum. Right now, you just look like crybabies who can't take the heat.
As for how long you've been here, believe me, compared to them, you're a well thought of Freeper. (Well, that's kind of an insult, isn't it, since nobody really likes them......LOL) but you know what I mean!