Genetic evidence links Jews to their ancient tribe

JP ^ | 11/20/2001 | By Judy Siegel

[Sabramerican]

Genetic evidence links Jews to their ancient tribe
By Judy Siegel

JERUSALEM (November 20) - Genetic evidence continues to provide additional proof to the claims that the Jewish people are descended from a common ancient Israelite father: Despite being separated for over 1,000 years, Sephardi Jews of North African origin are genetically indistinguishable from their brethren from Iraq, according to The Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

They also proved that Sephardi Jews are very close genetically to the Jews of Kurdistan, and only slight differences exist between these two groups and Ashkenazi Jews from Europe.

These conclusions are reached in an article published recently in the American Journal of Human Genetics and written by Prof. Ariella Oppenheim of the Hebrew University (HU) and Hadassah-University Hospital in Ein Kerem.

Others involved are German doctoral student Almut Nebel, Dr. Marina Faerman of HU, Dr. Dvora Filon of Hadassah-University Hospital, and other colleagues from Germany and India.

The researchers conducted blood tests of Ashkenazi, Sephardi and Kurdish Jews and examined their Y chromosomes, which are carried only by males. They then compared them with those of various Arab groups - Palestinians, Beduins, Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese - as well as to non-Arab populations from Transcaucasia - Turks, Armenians and Moslem Kurds.

The study is based on 526 Y chromosomes typed by the Israeli team and additional data on 1,321 individuals from 12 populations. The typing of the Jewish groups was performed at the National Genome Center at HU's Silberman Institute of Life Sciences.

The Fertile Crescent of the Middle East was one of the few centers in which the transition from hunting-gathering to permanent settlement and agriculture took place. Genetic studies suggest that migrating Neolithic farmers dispersed their technological innovations and domesticated animals from the Middle East towards Europe, North Africa and Southwest Asia.

Studies of Y chromosomes have become powerful tools for the investigation of the genetic history of males, since these chromosomes are transmitted from fathers to sons.

Surprisingly, the study shows a closer genetic affinity by Jews to the non-Jewish, non-Arab populations in the northern part of the Middle East than to Arabs. These findings are consistent with known cultural links that existed among populations in the Fertile Crescent in early history, and indicate that the Jews are direct descendants of the early Middle Eastern core populations, which later divided into distinct ethnic groups speaking different languages.

Previous investigations by the HU researchers suggested a common origin for Jewish and non-Jewish populations living in the Middle East. The current study refines and delineates that connection.

It is believed that the majority of today's Jews - not including converts and non-Jews with whom Jews intermarried - descended from the ancient Israelis that lived in the historic Land of Israel until the destruction of the Second Temple and their dispersal into the Diaspora.

The researchers say that a genetic analysis of the chromosomes of Jews from various countries show that there was practically no genetic intermixing between them and the host populations among which they were scattered during their dispersion - whether in Eastern Europe, Spain, Portugal or North Africa.

A particularly intriguing case illustrating this is that of the Kurdish Jews, said to be the descendants of the Ten Tribes of Israel who were exiled in 723 BCE. to the area known today as Kurdistan, located in Northern Iraq, Iran and Eastern Turkey. They continued to live there as a separate entity until their immigration to Israel in the 1950s. The Kurdish Jews of today show a much greater affinity to their fellow Jews elsewhere than to the Kurdish Moslems.

[Marduk]

I think you're trying to make the facts fit in with your religious beliefs.

[Ciexyz]

Cool. Remember G-d's promise to Abraham, that his descendants would be as numerous as the stars in the sky.

[Lent]

I think you're trying to make the facts fit in with your religious beliefs.

Not at all. In the scientific examinations the tracing directly refers to the Biblical record. Moreover, the Cohen marker is of interest for the very reason that it is a characteristic through Aaron as differentiated from the 12 Tribes of Israel. And yet Aaron was the grandson of Kohath. Hence the lineage relies and establishes a number of traditions - oral, textual, religious, historical, etc. My comment about leaving re forty years scenario you can take or leave. The point is that the genealogical examination is much broader than you initially thought.

[monkeyshine]

It was the craving to be a one and only people which impelled the ancient Hebrews

A mass craving among the ancient Hebrews? They were just handed these scrolls, and changed their customs and practices in order to conform to a regimented system that they knew was false en mass in order to satisfy a craving?

[Lent]

I don't expect most posters care to listen to a putz who links to anti-Semitic sites, except your anti-Semitic friends:

 

To: damian5; Jim Robinson

Poster damian5 has put two links in his reply to the Holocaust denier website of Michael Hoffman. In a brief search I came up
with this information on Hoffman:

     http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/5338/psa/info-on-denial.html
     Geocities has a rule against making hypertext links to "forbidden sites." So, instead of providing a hypertext link
     (hotlink) to the Revisioinist sites, I provide plaintext URLs and plaintext e-mail addresses:

One of the links provided is to Michael Hoffman's Revisionist Page
http://www.hoffman-info.com/wwtwo.html
This is the same URL as poster damian5's links.

     http://www.cusd.claremont.edu/~corchard/report/BattlingCyber-Nazis.html
     BATTLING CYBER-NAZIS

     ...."Frequent contributors to alt.revisionism include Greg Raven (associate editor at the Institute for Historical
     Review), Michael Hoffman II (editor of Revisionist Researcher magazine), and Ross Vicksell of CODOH
     (Committee for Open Debate On the Holocaust).

     The revisionists are looking forward to big things on the Net this year. In a fundraising newsletter last December,
     the Institute for Historical Review (the California-based command central for the international Holocaust denial
     movement) announced its five goals for 1995, including: "Make IHR materials available to millions around the
     world on the Internet . . . fast, around-the-clock access to the best revisionist materials."

     In January, Hoffman told his Internet audience that his out-of-print comic book, Tales of the Holohoax, could
     finally be reprinted "thanks to generous support from a legion of enthusiastic children and adults recruited here on
     the Internet."....

Hoffman also wrote a book in support of the the neo-nazi Ernst Zundel, a friend of his, and was once a media critic for the
now defunct Spotlight.

263 posted on 11/19/01 6:52 AM Pacific by vrwc54
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[Aurelius]

BUMP

[Lent]

What's that about porn the little curious porn-looker himself?
 

To: PJ-Comix

Porn Star: How did he get hung with that name?
 

24 posted on 11/17/01 5:45 PM Pacific by damian5
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/573124/posts?page=24#24 ''Porn Star'' to hit 50 cities (Baba Wawa To Interview The
Hedgehog)

 

[Lent]

Come one come all see the little monkey Bin Laden (damian5) crawl up his tree with his "behind" sticking out. Hey Bin Laden boy you start the stupid quotes you eat the banana.

One of damian5's goofy quotes:
 

The higher the monkey climbs, the more you can see of his behind.

US Army General Joseph Warren "Vinegar Joe" Stillwell 1883-1946

78 posted on 11/17/01 4:18 PM Pacific by damian5
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HERE WAS MY RESPONSE TO damian5:

Good metaphor for you, thanks. It looks like from your posts that the monkey climbing is you (you're one of those who are
the vestigial remnants of evolution - you haven't quite made the cross-over to developed humanity) and that monkey
specializes in flatulence for posts. Man it stinks in here. So much for stopping to watch what the monkey's going to do. I better
take another Tylenol and leave.  You, take a banana  and amuse yourself but don't stick it in that "behind" of yours put it in
your pie-hole.LOL!

[Lent]

Hey, bet you had fun at your favorite art exhibition with your Paletinian buddies:

Palestinian students walk under a replica of a Sbarro pizza restaurant sign, which reads "Kosher" in Hebrew, during the opening of an exhibition at Al Najah University in the West Bank town of Nablus, Sunday, Sept. 23, 2001, to commemorate one year since renewed violence broke out between Israelis and the Palestinians. The Sbarro section of the exhibition, replete with body parts and pizza slices strewn across the room, is a replica of the Aug. 9 Sbarro suicide bombing which killed 15 Israelis and thebomber in Jerusalem. (AP Photo/Nasser Ishtayeh)

Palestinian students visit a re-enactment of the Aug. 19 Sbarro pizza restaurant suicide bombing in Jerusalem, replete with body parts and pizza slices strewn around the room, during the opening of an exhibition at Al Najah University in the West Bank town of Nablus, Sunday, Sept. 23, 2001. The exhibit on the suicide bombing, which killed 15 Israelis and the bomber, is part of an exhibition to mark the passing of a year since renewed violence broke out between Israelis and the Palestinians. (AP Photo/Nasser Ishtayeh)

[veronica]

He posted it here too. LOLOL....

[Lent]

You a monkey too?

[Lent]

Yeah, the little Bin Laden lover damian5 is trying to cover himself and deflect attention for his linking to anti-Semitic sites. It's not working.

[Lent]

You know that many Palestinians have green eyes or blue and some are sandy-haired or blonde.

Many Arabs who flocked there from the Arabian peninsula, Yemen, Egypt and others who were there under the Ottoman rule intermarried with Balkan Muslims who were relocated there during the breakup of the Ottoman Empire. Thousands of European Muslims located there in the 19th century and intermarried with Arabs.

[monkeyshine]

I resent all this monkey talk. and I do like bananas.