Ashcroft's Warning: Dirty Bomb

[DrCarl]

Am I the only one who heard Sean Hannity, at about 5:40PM EST, stop while on the air and say: "So that's what Ashcroft's warning is. It's a dirty bomb."

[Tessaresopsis]

The chemical notation for potassium iodide is NOT "PI".

It is "KI"

Cheers.

[JoeFromSidney]

Potassium iodide is an antidote for radiation poisoning.

Not for all radiation poisoning. Only for radioactive iodine. Moreover, you have to start the treatment before exposure. The potassium iodide (potassium iodate is also available) floods your thyroid with iodine, so when the radioactive iodine arrives, it can't be absorbed by the thyroid. It doesn't do any good for any other kind of radioactive poisoning.

I got some from a survivalist mail order house. Can't remember which one now.

[P8riot]

PIKI PIKI PIKI :}

[DrCarl]

>. If a dirty bomb of any kind goes off or if there is any other terrorist attack then we'd be fools not to nuke Afghanistan, Iraq, maybe Sudan, Iran, Syria, Indonesia, etc

Yes we would. Let them talk about how horrible we were 40 years from now. Who cares? Our response must be monumental. It must secure freedom in a single day. And by the way, the following day, I don't want my tax dollars going to feed what's left of them either.

[chouli]

This doesn't make realistic sense. The Taliban doesn't have a delivery system for this type of bomb. And if they did, we have the equipment and technology to detect and destroy such a bomb and send it into the ocean before it can do any damage except kill a few fishes.

[GeeYouToo]

What if they have more than one of these dirty bombs here in the country. Mean they have had more than the last 10 years planning this as well as the NYC attack. They could have a few hidden all over the country waiting for the right moment to set them off.

[ChefKeith]

JUST STUFF THEM IN A DEEP DARK HOLE, or do what they do and use them as(in)human-sheilds!!!!!!!!!!!!

[P8riot]

We'll meet again..., Don't know where, don't know when, but we'll meet again some sunny day Dr Strangelove, uh I mean Carl

[FITZ]

The Taliban doesn't have a delivery system for this type of bomb.

What about stolen US airplanes or helicopters?

[FReethesheeples]

bump

[xm177e2]

A "dirty" bomb, at least while I was in the military, was described as a surface or subsurface nuclear detonation. The material thrown up, from the blast, is highly radio active and could carry for miles. Even a small nuke can contaminate a very large area.

I think that's a "Dirty Nuke," whereas this is just a conventional bomb with dirty material attached, or a "Dirty Bomb."

[FReethesheeples]

bump

[P8riot]

I think that's a "Dirty Nuke," whereas this is just a conventional bomb with dirty material attached, or a "Dirty Bomb."

Kind of like a "Fruit of the Loom" boom

[Vauss]

I'm 50 years old and grew up in the Cold War. Spent a lot of years as a survivalist preparing for the Nuclear War eventuality. So the research I've done on radiation and its effects is easily equivalent to several upper level and graduate level courses in radiation chemistry and biology. Just some basic examples of the kind of information you need to know before you can even begin to figure out the deadliness of radioactive materials:

1) what is current exposure to a typical human being from natural sources of radiation? (200 millirem).

2) What is the LD-50 for humans? (450 rem instant exposure, assuming no attempt to help the person).

3) How many biogical half-lives for plutonium-239 in the human body? (about 5, by which time it is in the bone and has a biogical half-life of 10,000 years).

4) What are the different types of radiation? (alpha particles, gamma rays, beta decay electrons).

5) How deadly is Plutonium-239 and what has to be done to it to make it an effective cancer agent? (if ingested, about as deadly as caffeine; it doesn't pass across the gastrointestinal tract very well. To cause cancer in rats so it could be studied, it has to be ground down to the right size at temps of 900 C. Then special blowers have to be used to blow it through the rat cages since Plutonium is so dense it will rapidly plate out onto the cage surfaces.)

And so on and so forth. Radiation is radiation, and having an understanding of it is vital for dispelling hysterical nonsense.

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

• Radioactive Iodine (Radioiodine) is a major radioisotope constituent of both nuclear power plant accidents and nuclear bomb explosions and can travel hundreds of miles on the winds.

• Even very small amounts of inhaled or ingested radioiodine can do grave damage as it will always concentrate, and be retained, in the small space of the thyroid gland. Eventually giving such a large radiation dose to thyroid cells there that abnormalities are likely to result, such as loss of thyroid function, nodules in the thyroid, or thyroid cancer. (Each year 12,000 Americans discover they have thyroid cancer, though from various assorted causes, and about 1000 die from it.)

• Chernobyl has shown, and continues to reveal, that the greatest danger from radioiodine is to the tiny thyroid glands of children. Researchers have found that in certain parts of Belarus, for example, 36.4 per cent of children, who were under the age of four at the time of the accident, can expect to develop thyroid cancer. Also, "This increase in incidence has been documented up to 500 km from the accident site."

• Health experts now estimate that the greatest health concerns affecting the largest number of people from a nuclear accident, or nuclear bomb explosion(s) anywhere in the world, will likely be from the release of radioiodine that is then carried downwind.

• The good news is that taking either Potassium Iodide (KI) or Potassium Iodate (KIO3) before exposure will saturate (fill up) a persons thyroid gland with safe stable iodine to where there is no room for later uptake of radioactive iodine. Once the thyroid is saturated, then any additional iodine (radioactive or stable) that is later inhaled or ingested is quickly eliminated via the kidneys.

• The bad news is that after Three Mile Island and Chernobyl all available KI and KIO3 supplies disappeared for months, almost overnight! The KI and KIO3 market is very thin and current limited inventory will be quickly depleted in any nuclear emergency occuring anywhere in the world. (At www.ki4u.com we expect to be 'out of business' within 24-hours of any nuclear emergency simply because we'll be totally sold-out with no illusions of getting re-supplied again any time soon!)

• Potassium Iodide (KI) and/or Potassium Iodate (KIO3) are now being stockpiled by most developed countries for future nuclear emergencies, except for here in the USA. However, very limited quantites are available for individual purchase in the USA.

• The only four KI and KIO3 formulations currently available on the market today are all here.

[FUSSBALL]

Well I just hope they dont try anything with a train. A train weighing in at oh 100,000 tons would be awfully hard to stop.

[monkeyshine]

Weather patterns in the US generally move west to east.

I am 7 miles from the Pacific Ocean. Not much further west from here, although I have some friends who are only a few blocks from the beach.

[FUSSBALL]

I understand and respect what you are saying ( I do ) but you take all of what you just said. Which is mostly theoretical. And have it take place in real life at a much larger scale.

I Dont want to find out either way. Hopefully we will all be sitting around speaking to our computers 20 years from now discussing this further.

Computer! Start log. Star date....oh sorry

[FUSSBALL]

Chernobyl has shown, and continues to reveal, that the greatest danger from radioiodine is to the tiny thyroid glands of children. Researchers have found that in certain parts of Belarus, for example, 36.4 per cent of children, who were under the age of four at the time of the accident, can expect to develop thyroid cancer. Also, "This increase in incidence has been documented up to 500 km from the accident site."

I love it didnt someone just write earlier that Chernobyl ended up not hurting anyone and the evidence shows that we think radiation is worse than it realy is. HHMMMM Hysteria lol so funny

[DrCarl]

>We'll meet again..., Don't know where

Possibly Fiji? Bring your fishin' pole. No! Bring two.