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Feminists, Leftists "You're Next"
TooGoodReports ^ | October 17, 2001 | Henry Makow Ph.

Posted on 10/18/2001 6:41:57 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen

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1 posted on 10/18/2001 6:41:57 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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We don't know why Wales was killed. I seriously doubt it was for his anti-Second Amendment activism.

He was a dogged prosecutor who imprisoned many people - he had a 100% conviction rate according to one news account. He made dozens of desperate criminals his enemies. Criminals who had ample motive and a historical disposition for violence and illegality. His murder was probably an act of personal revenge taken by a criminal who wasn't even legally allowed to own a gun.

2 posted on 10/18/2001 6:46:49 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Bump and bookmarked...
3 posted on 10/18/2001 6:53:28 AM PDT by TomServo
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I appreciate what is being said in the article, but I work for a large firm where there are clear cases on gender bias against women. Like it or not, women have a point. I don't like the way their new found power is abused by some women, particularly with regard to the military. As usual, our government has gone overboard in creating laws and process to calm people (other messing things up such as the legalistic military "get Mommy's permission."

Let us do a simple cost - benefit analysis of the WTC. I don't agree with this approach, but it might help you understand the extreme liberal position. The loss of 5,000 lives at the WTC (and loss of property) is measured against 1) the potential further loss of life in the U.S. (e.g., if we don't retaliate, maybe it will stop). So, the costs of retaliation in these people's minds are so large that the benefits from retaliation are dwarfed. I don't believe for a second that the Berkeley radicals care about the lives of Afghan people - they are worried about themselves.

Of course, burrowing one's head in the sand works in certain circumstances, but not here. The extreme liberals don't really care if NYC is blown to bits, as long as it isn't Wisconsin or Berkeley. I think that this is the essence of the new liberalism - its all about "me" and not about "us." Think about it - when you hear a liberal group trying to intimidate the larger group, it is always about "their rights" and not about the rights of the larger group. This is what I think is going on with the liberal left.

So, I agree with the article, but in a larger context. We need to ammend to laws of the land and stop discrimination against the larger group in favor of smaller groups or even larger groups that want the rights for themselves, but not the others.

4 posted on 10/18/2001 7:02:16 AM PDT by TonyS4412w
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To: Stand Watch Listen; Nick Danger; Egregious Philbin
"The response from General Tommy R. Franks was that his legal officer "doesn't like this, so we're not going to fire." The Mullah escaped unscathed."

In communist countries they call that JAG bastid their "political officer." They can't make a decision without his OK, and there's hell to pay if they do.

"Feminism has become a job requirement, like membership in the Communist Party was in Russia."

We're in it up to our necks folks, and they said "It could never happen here".... now how do we turn it around before the Spartans get here?

This article needs to be read by every FReeper and forwarded profusely.

Bump 'til it hurts!

5 posted on 10/18/2001 7:04:38 AM PDT by Harrison Bergeron
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Bump 'til it hurts
6 posted on 10/18/2001 7:10:44 AM PDT by bert
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To: TonyS4412w
Like it or not, women have a point.

Women in America have it better than any women in the world and they are the biggest whiners on the planet.

7 posted on 10/18/2001 7:19:14 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: TonyS4412w
I think Tony is exactly right. Modern day "peaceniks" don't care about the general question of whether war is inherently bad or not, as much as they care about their own selfish hides. If they did - they would've skewered Clinton for his travesty of a war in Yugoslavia, which featured intentional targeting of civilians. Like the equivalent of their "CNN". Not a peep from these contriving hypocrites back then.

And paranthetically, when Nixon ended the draft and got the "Me" generation completely out of the war, the anti-war crowds quickly ditched their placards nowhere near the closest dumpster, even though there were 2 MILLION civilian murders in Cambodia to come, after the US left the conflict. Like they really gave a crap about US bombing of VC supply lines in Cambodia.

I also agree with Tony that the "ap-peace-rs" currently favor non-retaliation not out of the highest Ghandi-ish principles, but out of the lowest of Neville-Chamberlainian instincts. Now that their cowardly hides are on the front lines with us - it's time to closely watch these "foxhole buddies" we would never choose in another type of war.

8 posted on 10/18/2001 7:19:20 AM PDT by ctonious
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For the last 20 years plus, the "PC" crapola has been a general copy of the "Red Guard" action that swept China under Mao. Pure propaganda and B.S. The media here has been eager to help all they can. Yet, many liberals are such airheads they cannot fathom that the crap they blindly support actually applies to themselves and not just their neighbor or some nobody across town.
9 posted on 10/18/2001 7:21:56 AM PDT by Waco
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To: TonyS4412w
"...I work for a large firm where there are clear cases on gender bias against women. Like it or not, women have a point."

Unless you are referring to the whining crybaby women listen around corners perchance to be offended by some off-color joke and cash in on a huge discrimination settlement... you lie like a rug. The supercharged PC atmosphere, especially in large companies, is fueled by committees and legal offices and posters on every bulletin board warning men to tow the line and watch their step around women. A man's career, hell... his life, can be shredded if he looks at a woman in a way that makes her "uncomfortable?" - the definition of uncomfortable being any damned thing she doesn't like. And wage discrimination has been illegal since WWII... the only women suing for that anymore are the secrfetaries who think they should be making the same salaries as their bosses. And YOU blame the government? Who do you think it is suing it from outside and corrupting it from the inside? It's the feminists of both "gender types" otherwise known as "sexes."

"Of course, burrowing one's head in the sand works in certain circumstances, but not here."

OK, you've enlightened us with your liberal feminist drivel... now tell us all, so we can benefit from your wisdom: Under what circumstances is it a good thing to bury one's head in the sand??? Forget it... the question was rhetorical! You're liberal enough where you actually think you're making sense.


10 posted on 10/18/2001 7:24:57 AM PDT by Harrison Bergeron
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BUMP
11 posted on 10/18/2001 7:27:17 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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They resent that standards are lowered because 85% of army women fail to meet the minimum physical requirements,

There's the #1 problem. Standards should NOT be lowered because some group or the other fails to meet them. The answer is for that group to work harder to make it up to the point where they WILL qualify with the existing standards. After all they are not in place as a barrier; they are there because the job requires those skills!!

12 posted on 10/18/2001 7:28:01 AM PDT by SuziQ
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MAKE A LIST OF THE FEMS AND INCLUDE THE GIRLY MEN TOO! freep em good
13 posted on 10/18/2001 7:29:55 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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“To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical.”— Thomas Jefferson ... We need a genuine "diversity" program that will make our public institutions truly representative of the nation's values."

How can we do the second without violating the first? Defining and codifying 'national values' is bound to violate some individuals' beliefs.
14 posted on 10/18/2001 7:31:11 AM PDT by gjenkins
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Bump for later reading
15 posted on 10/18/2001 7:32:17 AM PDT by Pyro7480
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This is an irresponsible article. No one knows who killed Wales, or why. To assume he was killed by pro-2nd Amendment individuals is speculation at best. Also, this article almost seems to suggest that Wales had it coming, that his murder was part of the "culture war," and that members of anti-gun groups better watch out or they'll be next. To talk about Wales' murder right after mentioning the need to "purge subversive elements" seems to me to be reckless at best, a thinly-veiled threat at worst.
16 posted on 10/18/2001 7:33:00 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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OK, you've enlightened us with your liberal feminist drivel...

I don't want to speak for the original poster, but it seems to me that identifying legitimate inequality is a fundamental conservative principle. Too often we try to ignore legitimate gripes because there are those who take advantage. That's a bad idea, and it's one of the reasons we do so poorly with women voters.

17 posted on 10/18/2001 7:40:26 AM PDT by ignatz_q
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18 posted on 10/18/2001 7:41:04 AM PDT by Fiddlstix
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Re Tony's great concern for the rights of the so called abuse: "TonyS4412w member since October 17th, 2001"

Harrison, maybe that might explain the comment!

Re the phoney bs stirred up about by the NOW hags and their ACLU lawyer buddies. My wife, sister, several nieces, sister in laws and friends are pro rights for all. They have handled the bad guys in the work place very well without NOW, the FEDS and the ACLU. A few male clymers had to get a phone call from the husbands before they modified their behavior at the work place or the bad guys decided to leave that work place!

In all of these liberal claims of abuse/harassment just follow the money trail!

19 posted on 10/18/2001 7:45:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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Destroy the teachers unions and verily the left wing monopoly known as public schools, will collapse. I f you fail to do these 2 things, this discussion is a complete waste of time.
20 posted on 10/18/2001 7:48:38 AM PDT by 1 FELLOW FREEPER
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