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1 posted on 10/18/2001 6:41:57 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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We don't know why Wales was killed. I seriously doubt it was for his anti-Second Amendment activism.

He was a dogged prosecutor who imprisoned many people - he had a 100% conviction rate according to one news account. He made dozens of desperate criminals his enemies. Criminals who had ample motive and a historical disposition for violence and illegality. His murder was probably an act of personal revenge taken by a criminal who wasn't even legally allowed to own a gun.

2 posted on 10/18/2001 6:46:49 AM PDT by wideawake
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Bump and bookmarked...
3 posted on 10/18/2001 6:53:28 AM PDT by TomServo
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I appreciate what is being said in the article, but I work for a large firm where there are clear cases on gender bias against women. Like it or not, women have a point. I don't like the way their new found power is abused by some women, particularly with regard to the military. As usual, our government has gone overboard in creating laws and process to calm people (other messing things up such as the legalistic military "get Mommy's permission."

Let us do a simple cost - benefit analysis of the WTC. I don't agree with this approach, but it might help you understand the extreme liberal position. The loss of 5,000 lives at the WTC (and loss of property) is measured against 1) the potential further loss of life in the U.S. (e.g., if we don't retaliate, maybe it will stop). So, the costs of retaliation in these people's minds are so large that the benefits from retaliation are dwarfed. I don't believe for a second that the Berkeley radicals care about the lives of Afghan people - they are worried about themselves.

Of course, burrowing one's head in the sand works in certain circumstances, but not here. The extreme liberals don't really care if NYC is blown to bits, as long as it isn't Wisconsin or Berkeley. I think that this is the essence of the new liberalism - its all about "me" and not about "us." Think about it - when you hear a liberal group trying to intimidate the larger group, it is always about "their rights" and not about the rights of the larger group. This is what I think is going on with the liberal left.

So, I agree with the article, but in a larger context. We need to ammend to laws of the land and stop discrimination against the larger group in favor of smaller groups or even larger groups that want the rights for themselves, but not the others.

4 posted on 10/18/2001 7:02:16 AM PDT by TonyS4412w
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To: Stand Watch Listen; Nick Danger; Egregious Philbin
"The response from General Tommy R. Franks was that his legal officer "doesn't like this, so we're not going to fire." The Mullah escaped unscathed."

In communist countries they call that JAG bastid their "political officer." They can't make a decision without his OK, and there's hell to pay if they do.

"Feminism has become a job requirement, like membership in the Communist Party was in Russia."

We're in it up to our necks folks, and they said "It could never happen here".... now how do we turn it around before the Spartans get here?

This article needs to be read by every FReeper and forwarded profusely.

Bump 'til it hurts!

5 posted on 10/18/2001 7:04:38 AM PDT by Harrison Bergeron
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For the last 20 years plus, the "PC" crapola has been a general copy of the "Red Guard" action that swept China under Mao. Pure propaganda and B.S. The media here has been eager to help all they can. Yet, many liberals are such airheads they cannot fathom that the crap they blindly support actually applies to themselves and not just their neighbor or some nobody across town.
9 posted on 10/18/2001 7:21:56 AM PDT by Waco
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BUMP
11 posted on 10/18/2001 7:27:17 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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They resent that standards are lowered because 85% of army women fail to meet the minimum physical requirements,

There's the #1 problem. Standards should NOT be lowered because some group or the other fails to meet them. The answer is for that group to work harder to make it up to the point where they WILL qualify with the existing standards. After all they are not in place as a barrier; they are there because the job requires those skills!!

12 posted on 10/18/2001 7:28:01 AM PDT by SuziQ
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“To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical.”— Thomas Jefferson ... We need a genuine "diversity" program that will make our public institutions truly representative of the nation's values."

How can we do the second without violating the first? Defining and codifying 'national values' is bound to violate some individuals' beliefs.
14 posted on 10/18/2001 7:31:11 AM PDT by gjenkins
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Bump for later reading
15 posted on 10/18/2001 7:32:17 AM PDT by Pyro7480
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This is an irresponsible article. No one knows who killed Wales, or why. To assume he was killed by pro-2nd Amendment individuals is speculation at best. Also, this article almost seems to suggest that Wales had it coming, that his murder was part of the "culture war," and that members of anti-gun groups better watch out or they'll be next. To talk about Wales' murder right after mentioning the need to "purge subversive elements" seems to me to be reckless at best, a thinly-veiled threat at worst.
16 posted on 10/18/2001 7:33:00 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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18 posted on 10/18/2001 7:41:04 AM PDT by Fiddlstix
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The second is an extremist response to this kind of subversion, but it is a despicable criminal response that itself subverts freedom. The Right needs to uphold the rule of law.

What a scumbucket! I guess Gun Control Inc.’s wholly made up suggestion that he was killed by pro-second amendment folks is good as gospel to him.

Bite me, jerk.

23 posted on 10/18/2001 7:58:53 AM PDT by dead
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Not to pick nits or anything, but Predators don't cost anywhere near $40 Million. That sounds more like the sticker-price on an F-15.
27 posted on 10/18/2001 8:02:14 AM PDT by 12B
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Of course, my diatribe was directed at the author, not yourself.
28 posted on 10/18/2001 8:02:47 AM PDT by dead
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A good first step in the feminist/military solution would be to put pressure on SECDEF to disband DACOWITS -- the Defense Advisory Committee on Women in the Services.
35 posted on 10/18/2001 8:14:00 AM PDT by Gunner9mm
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"Political correctness" means adherence to feminist doctrine.

I have never really found a good explanation of what POLITICAL CORRECTNESS means. Does the “feminist doctrine” include Offended Privileges, the right to deny privileges to the majority for the offended one? Does it include Victim Privileges, the right to deny logic and fairness to the majority for the victimized one?

I would like to see a new term coined to define these dangerous and misguided beliefs. PC sounds too benevolent !!!

38 posted on 10/18/2001 8:17:51 AM PDT by kapn kuek
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It's discraceful how feminists are try to brainwash our children. Where I live (Ireland) they are trying to introduce a program into schools called "Exploring Masculinities". The core idea of this programme, i.e. that gender is socially constructed, is a central tenet of the entire feminist belief system. The external evaluation states that "recognition of masculinity as a social construct derives from the insights and increased levels of awareness developed by the feminist movement".

It contends that the observable differences between boys and girls has been the product of generations of differential upbringing. Developmental psychologists have found that, across cultures, boys and girls are significantly different in what interests them and in how they engage with their environment. The emerging discoveries from Brain Science have found that the male and female brains are organically different, proving that there is a physical basis for the cognitive differences between men and women. Men and women do think differently.

It is a human triumph and is rooted in our evolutionary success story. Our education system should be teaching and celebrating that difference instead of engaging in social engineering, which further alienates boys by seeking to re-construct their natural maleness.It is a truly pernicious experiment which is an attempt to indoctrinate a generation of young men with feminist propaganda and to inflict a collective guilt trip on them.

42 posted on 10/18/2001 8:27:36 AM PDT by Colosis
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Either way, the failure to attack has left Defense Secretary Rumsfeld "kicking a lot of glass and breaking doors," the officer said. "But in the end I don't know if it'll mean any changes."

Why not?
Is the suggestion here that "cover-my-butt girlie man" General Tommy R. Franks is immune to dismissal for incompetence?
He doesn't have a superior?

If neither his superior nor anyone higher up can get rid of this incompetent, then mass firinga appear to me to be in order until a rational warrior is found.

47 posted on 10/18/2001 8:40:43 AM PDT by Publius6961
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Bookmarked, and a bump! Thanks, SWL -- this is a great article.
51 posted on 10/18/2001 8:45:08 AM PDT by betty boop
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Ol' Henry seems to have evidence that the gungrabber was killed by someone on the "right". Just because none of us are shedding crocodile tears over his death doesn't mean that he wasn't just as likely to have been shot by a criminal he had prosecuted or some idiot Green party whackadoo.

If Henry did it, he should confess. If he didn't he may as well shut up. He's doing nobody any favors to write as though it's common knowledge that a conservative did this. I think this is proof that too much education causes brain damage to some people.

58 posted on 10/18/2001 9:00:42 AM PDT by Twodees
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