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Posted on 03/19/2026 3:03:26 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
The 60-vote threshold stops bad bills, but it also makes it impossible for the GOP to pass good ones.
I’ll admit that the 60-vote cloture threshold has prevented many bad bills from becoming law, and that without it bad bills would become law more easily. But it also prevents good bills from getting passed.
Before 1917, when senators established the cloture vote in Senate Rule 22, there was no formal way of ending debate (a filibuster) in the Senate. Because unlimited debate was the tradition of the Senate, cloture was invoked only five times in the first approximately 50 years of its existence. That’s because the cloture vote was intended to end a debate that two-thirds (later changed to three-fifths) of senators believed had gone on too long. A cloture vote ended debate on the Civil Rights Act of 1964, for instance, but only after a 57-day filibuster (57 days of debate). It was never intended to prevent all debate; however, it has evolved to do exactly that.
Lawmakers routinely use the cloture vote today to snuff out discussion and thoughtful consideration of proposed amendments to legislation being debated. The result is a charade in which both sides agree to a set number of amendments that will be voted on that are guaranteed to fail, protecting the original text of the legislation from alteration.
Some have suggested using a “talking filibuster” to pass the SAVE America Act. In theory, the talking filibuster would allow passing a bill with a mere majority by making the opposition exhaust its ability to continue debate. Before 1986, that was possible due to the “two-speech rule,” which limited every senator to only two speeches on a given debate question during a single legislative day (which, absurdly, can stretch on for weeks because of how the...
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This will be the very first thing the dems do when they re-take the senate, mark my words.
Yep. The old: “If we don’t do it they will” doesn’t apply if they are going to do it anyway.
Get rid of the filibuster, Because it is just a dog and pony show. Keep the 60 vote requirement, because that means Congress will be able to pass fewer idiotic bills. In fact, the house should have the same 60% requirement to pass any bill.
Thune is at best delusional
The CCP pays well.
And the second thing the Democrats will do is pack the Supreme Court.
Yes, and they will make life hell for Trump with impeachment after impeachment. The GOP are not smart enough to know that is the first thing the RATs will do.
I posted this months ago:
Either the filibuster should be made part of the Constitution, or it should be eliminated and all the legislation Trump needs to do a proper job should be enacted.
Two Republicans could drop a bill in the hoppers proposing a filibuster constitutional amendment be sent to the states with a 05/30/2026 limit for ratification.
Dammit Ron, YOU are a Senator - frickin DO IT!
Then we lose power and have 51 or 52 states, and 13 SCOTUS. Huge risk.
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