Posted on 11/22/2025 11:59:37 AM PST by Whatever Works
The Department of Education has excluded nursing as a “professional degree” program as it sets about implementing various measures regarding student loans laid out in President Donald Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill.”
The move has sparked significant uproar among nurses and nursing groups, with the American Nurses Association saying, as reported by Nursing World, that “limiting nurses’ access to funding for graduate education threatens the very foundation of patient care.
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Given they seem to be more interested in doing tiktok dance videos and sleeping with the doctors, ....
It is not a professional degree.
Sorry. It never was.
Yeah, on the face of it this doesn’t seem like a good idea. Perhaps it’s actually targeted at less than RN?
My sister was in the last class of nursing education in Oregon that granted a certificate for an RN. 1974, I think.
This story is from Newsweak, so I do expect them to lie about whatever they think will hurt Orange Man.
All this means is nursing schools are going to have to lower their exorbitant tuitions if they want to remain in business because the students can’t bury themselves in student loan debt and hand the proceeds over to them anymore.
There is a long graduation in the degree to which nursing is a profession as opposed to a clinical clerk or grunt. A the husband of an advanced practice Clinical Nurse Specialist, painting the label so broadly is politically-stupid, functionally-counterproductive, and a hazard to patients.
NP or PA, yes. RN, no.
I remember the dance videos shared during the pandemic. They needed to get to work!
My Mom was an RN, she didn’t finish her degree until us kids were old enough to more or less care for ourselves she wanted to achieve this, didn’t live long enough. Folks, we ain’t got enough of them.
An Advanced Practice Registered Nurse (APRN) is a registered nurse with a master’s or doctoral degree and advanced training.
There is a nurse shortage most especially:
In rural red state areas…
Kind of like teachers
> In either case, it is professional without question. <
If “professional” is defined as a job where long and specialized training is required, then an RN degree is certainly a professional degree. You can’t just jump into the job after a week’s orientation.
An RN’s position does include some basic, mundane duties. But that would also be true in any profession. For example, I did specialized work in chemistry. I also washed my share of lab glassware.
MSM: Waaahhh. Trump hates nurses! Be angry!
A master’s degree in an engineering field, for example, is not a professional degree because it is a Bachelor of Science degree. This is the case even though an engineer must be licensed to practice through a state licensing board.
A lawyer or doctor, on the other hand, has an advanced degree that is specific to a particular profession: juris doctor (JD) or medical doctor (MD).
Only thing a degree does is shows you can follow instructions, generally show up on time...
That's a consequence of population density and overall health; in many places there aren't enough sick people to keep medical practices open.
RN requires 2 years of college, a “Professional Degree” generally requires 6 years (2 years post-graduate). Engineers seem to be in a bit of a gray zone: I’m one and have had many engineer friends — we all had “only” 4 year degrees. Maybe one needs the 2 years of post-graduate studies to put “PE” after your name. I never bothered to check, and no one ever bothered to ask - they only cared that I was reliable, knew my stuff / specialty, and did my job well.
I’m a nurse with a BSN and an English degree. Reading this jumbled article was a strain on my logic, a mess of fake and I’m exhausted
Here’s what I got from it:
It is from a 1965 ruling
It affects post graduate programs
And it is a department of education ruling
Trump is removed from the dept of educationn having abolished it. They just won’t listen to him
“With a cap on federal student loans, fewer nurses will be able to afford graduate nursing education, such as Master’s, [Doctor of Nursing Practice (DNP)], and Ph.D. degrees,” sinw lady from John’s Hopkins
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