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‘Swiftboating' Is Beyond Dirty Politics
Rolling Stone ^ | Oct 3, 2025 | Michael Embrich

Posted on 10/03/2025 12:30:16 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

As a former state commander of a major Veterans Service Organization, I know firsthand how difficult it is to obtain service records from the National Archives. That's why, when I learned that a political operative tied to Jack Ciattarelli - the Trump-endorsed Republican running for governor in New Jersey - was handed the unredacted service records of his Ciattarelli's opponent, Democrat Mikie Sherrill, my B.S. meter went off at full siren.

This was a movie I had seen before. As a college student, I had the honor of chauffeuring former Senator Max Cleland around New Jersey and New York. Cleland, a decorated Vietnam veteran who lost three limbs in combat, became one of the most shameful targets of political attacks. In 2002, his opponents, led by Karl Rove, launched attack ads questioning his patriotism and loyalty to America because he opposed parts of President George W. Bush's post-9/11 security policies. The ads even morphed his image alongside Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, suggesting that a man who had literally sacrificed his body for his country was somehow soft on terrorism. It was a devastating smear campaign that weaponized Cleland's service and sacrifice, an early and ugly example of how Republicans perfected the tactic of discrediting veterans when they couldn't win on the issues. Cleland lost his bid for reelection in Georgia to Republican Saxby Chambliss.

Something similar played out when Senator John Kerry, a decorated Vietnam War veteran, ran for president against George W. Bush in 2004. Kerry had commanded a Navy swift boat in combat, earned multiple medals, and built his candidacy on national security credentials. But instead of debating him on policy,

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Cleland, a decorated Vietnam veteran who lost three limbs in combat

Interesting if you go to Wikipedia and look at Cleland's awards, the Purple Heart is not listed. I heard because the loss of limbs was self-inflicted.

The author fails to denounce the 60 Minute hit piece on W.
1 posted on 10/03/2025 12:30:16 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Waaa, Waaa. Change my diaper. Rolling Stoned.


2 posted on 10/03/2025 12:35:16 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Babylon Bee may be a satirical site, but it has more credibility than the Rolling Stone.


3 posted on 10/03/2025 12:37:09 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Certified smarter than average for my species)
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The article is right about a few isolated facts, but the tone is that of standard Democrat screed.


4 posted on 10/03/2025 12:37:10 PM PDT by ComputerGuy
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The Kerry analogy is excellent.

Kerry’s team thought he was a pile of excrement.

They knew the man better than anyone else.


5 posted on 10/03/2025 12:37:24 PM PDT by cgbg ("The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it.")
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"Senator John Kerry, a decorated Vietnam War veteran"

Yikes!
Proof that this whole article is BS...

6 posted on 10/03/2025 12:38:31 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is rabble-rising Sam Adams now that we need him? Is his name Trump, now?)
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Something similar played out when Senator John Kerry, a decorated Vietnam War veteran, ran for president against George W. Bush in 2004.

All JFnK had to do to exonerate himself was to sign Standard Form SF-180 releasing his military records to the public, but he insisted on releasing a copy his lawyers had sanitized instead.

7 posted on 10/03/2025 12:39:14 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Je suis Charlie Kirk.)
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“Senator John Kerry, a decorated Vietnam War veteran”

BIG FAT LIE.

He is a Traitor and a LIAR. He has been since the 1970’s.

John Kerry testifies against U.S. involvement in Vietnam, April 22nd, 1971.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4351577/user-clip-john-kerry-vietnam-hearing-1971

8 posted on 10/03/2025 12:39:50 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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Wiki page states it was a friendly fire accident. Grenade dropped off someone else’s webgear... so yeah, no Purple Heart for that.


9 posted on 10/03/2025 12:41:05 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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I heard the reason they had to get Kerry out of Nam was because he almost got fragged. He was only there for a month or two.


10 posted on 10/03/2025 12:41:12 PM PDT by silent majority rising ( United Israel - Judea, Samaria, and Gaza - US get out of the UN-we are not United with them.)
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Something similar played out when Senator John Kerry, a decorated Vietnam War veteran, ran for president against George W. Bush in 2004. Kerry had commanded a Navy swift boat in combat, earned multiple medals, and built his candidacy on national security credentials.

John Kerry and national security credentials?! He never had any. But hey.... it's Rolling Stone.

11 posted on 10/03/2025 12:42:33 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Ok In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.👨 )
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Voters need to have their candidates FULLY vetted...should know who they’re voting for. We’ve had enough unpleasant surprises.


12 posted on 10/03/2025 12:45:10 PM PDT by ryderann
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FU Rolling Stone. Go scream fascist and Nazi.


13 posted on 10/03/2025 12:47:17 PM PDT by Fledermaus ("It turns out all we really needed was a new President!")
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But it’s not dirty when done to a Republican


14 posted on 10/03/2025 12:48:03 PM PDT by AppyPappy (They don't call you a Nazi because they think you are one. They do it to justify violence. )
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who lost three limbs in combat, became one of the most shameful targets of political attacks. In 2002, his opponents, led by Karl Rove, launched attack ads questioning his patriotism and loyalty to America because he opposed parts of President George W. Bush's post-9/11 security policies.

These statements in the quote above are non-sequiturs. We can honor someone's service and sacrifice while still condemning their ideology. The former deserves the utmost respect. The latter is subject to the utmost scrutiny and, if deserved, opprobrium.

15 posted on 10/03/2025 12:49:07 PM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Rolling Stone?
The band, mostly dead, but still good.
The joke of a mag?
Started rotten and went down from there.
Not even close to believing that dork.


16 posted on 10/03/2025 12:50:07 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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Rolling Stone via msn.com

Yeah, no.

That would be like purposefully stepping in dog poop.

17 posted on 10/03/2025 12:54:46 PM PDT by Texas Eagle ("Throw me to the wolves and I'll return leading the pack"- Donald J. Trump)
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Does RS know how Obama got into the Senate? Divorce records from his opponent were unsealed. It’s all dirty tricks but if it’s true folk should want to know.


18 posted on 10/03/2025 12:55:27 PM PDT by lula (God is in control.)
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To: Dead Corpse

My recollection was it was his own grenade.


19 posted on 10/03/2025 1:03:00 PM PDT by alternatives?
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

They talk about “swift boating “ as if it were some sort of unfair attack on Kerry, when it actually was the complete truth about Kerry.

His company said he ran like a coward from a firefight dumping one of his men into the water, who then had to be rescued by another boat -while they were still under fire.


20 posted on 10/03/2025 1:06:33 PM PDT by Mr. K (no i think 10%consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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