Posted on 09/20/2025 1:47:19 PM PDT by River Hawk
Attorney General Pam Bondi suggested that the government, in response to the assassination of Charlie Kirk, may start to target “hate speech.” In a podcast interview the AG stated that hate speech isn’t free speech and that her office may prosecute those who cross the line.
Her comments outraged many on the right, who correctly see “hate speech” as a dubious concept engineered to suppress conservative views. It’s also an unconstitutional concept, as our laws recognize hate speech as free speech protected by the First Amendment. This was affirmed by Charlie Kirk himself. “Hate speech does not exist legally in America,” he once wrote. “There’s ugly speech. There’s gross speech. There’s evil speech. And ALL of it is protected by the First Amendment.”
The Trump administration is right to declare Antifa a domestic terror group and should go after any organizations that aid its efforts. It should also investigate the far-left Discord chats that inspire deranged individuals to embrace violence. But the admin should avoid setting a standard that could be exploited to target “hate speech.”
Free speech is good for the right. Trump was able to win the 2024 election in large part due to the freer state of social media. The right is now able to broadcast its views to millions without the threat of censorship or government heavy-handedness. That’s something we should preserve rather than sacrifice on behalf of a misguided assumption that new speech restrictions will only be used against the left.
Conservatives are right to demand action against left-wing extremism. There is plenty that the government can do to curb this menace without jeopardizing our right to free expression. It’s imperative to do what’s necessary without inadvertently creating hate speech laws.
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The Make America Great Again (MAGA) movement has gained in ranks mostly due to the pragmatic messenger who cuts through party lines, Donald Trump; but also, because the political left went too far into the world of social crazy.
For several years, traditional moderates and Democrats have been turning away from the messaging of the leftist party now controlled by radical Marxists and publicly declared socialists. Almost everything they created as a point of advocacy made their following spiral into an ever-diminishing circle.
Democrats are the party of censorship, gleefully cheering as conservative voices were deplatformed, demonetized, targeted by the social media system operators who controlled the public square, targeted by an aligned government and mainstream media, and evidenced in their full-throated demands around the COVID-19 madness and vaccine protocols.
Democrats cheered as government collaborated with tech donors to diminish their opposition, while simultaneously they affirmed some of the evilest enterprises around DEI, toxic advocacy for transgender and LGBTQ+ ideology, the mutilation of children and far worse. Socially their policies became increasingly toxic and ridiculous.
As they descended this spiral, Democrats became increasingly dangerous – visibly so – and the outcome of their advocacy was not in alignment with anything resembling ‘domestic tranquility’. None of this is questioned by serious people who have watched the last 18 years unfold. The leftist ideology is abusive in the extreme.
As the left pushed further and further into their created system of social madness, violence and evil enterprise, they lost support and MAGA Republicans were beneficiaries.
Despite our lack of control over the power centers, the MAGA tent expanded as the party of the individual not the collective; the party of freedom, free speech and, well, functionally common sense. The toxic abusers held power, but culturally they were losing control. MAGA represented the rebellion, and the rebel ranks gained even while, and perhaps because, we were being abused.
Then a 22-year-old radical leftist, fully indoctrinated within the 18-years of social Marxist advancement, shot the Christian representation of the MAGA rebellion, Charlie Kirk, in the neck – killing him in front of millions.
♦ Telemachus was a Christian monk from Asia who went to Rome and saw the gladiatorial games at the Colosseum. Telemachus watched the brutality of men slaughtering men, animals ripping the flesh and limbs from humans, while eighty thousand in the audience cheered. As a Christian, Telemachus was horrified.
Telemachus cried out, ‘In the Name of Christ, stop!’ Yet, his voice was lost in the roar within the great Colosseum. He descended the stairs, made his way to the edge of the arena, jumped down and stood between two Gladiators. ‘In the Name of Christ, stop!’, he declared. The crowd jeered, whistled and shouted down the much smaller monk, but Telemachus would not relent, ‘In the Name of Christ, stop!,’ he desperately kept repeating.
The angry jeers of the crowd turned violent, and they threw stones upon Telemachus; but the monk would only reply, ‘In the Name of Christ, stop!’. The stoning continued to rain down upon the small Asian monk, until Telemachus was dead. His only recorded words were, ‘In the Name of Christ, stop!’… until he was dead.
Telemachus’ body was dragged away, the games continued, but the moment changed how many perceived the brutality that took place within the Colosseum. The horrific injustice of the events forever changed how the blood lust within the venue was evaluated. Thereafter, Emperor Honorius recognized Telemachus’ martyrdom, and the gladiator games ended. [SOURCE]
Right now, within our body politic, in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s murder, there are two aspects that need to be reviewed: the cultural impact, and the politics of it all.
♦ Culturally the battle is in full swing. Those who have been abused by decades of toxic enterprise have been triggered to action by the killing of Charlie.
The toxic leftists who cheered the Marxist and abusive social constructs are being confronted. Their cheers in the aftermath of Charlies death are fueling a massive retribution from a righteously angered crowd.
The radical leftists are now being identified, isolated, ridiculed and marginalized. The Alinsky tactics of the abusers are being turned against them by the abused.
Thousands have lost their jobs; high profile leftists like Jimmy Kimmel have suffered righteous backlash. The toxic voices of the evildoers are now receiving consequences.
Evil killed Charlie, and Goodness is fighting back.
The American Christian culture has surged to the front of the battle lines, and has pierced the darkness. However, there’s a danger in our victory, and that brings the politics of it into the discussion.
♦ Politically, if there is one skillset the abusers have in their arsenal, that can be predicted to a certainty, it’s their ability to turn their abuse into victimhood once confronted. As righteous backlash continues surging, the abuser suddenly claims the mantle of ‘free speech.’
Do not underestimate the ability of Democrats to flip from abuser to proclaimed victim on the issue of ‘free speech’. The radical left, the Marxists, do not have the word hypocrite in their political dictionary; they are professional, narcissistic abusers.
The professional leftists dispatch their own history without a scintilla of reservation, if that’s the position they need to take in order to advance their agenda. They will not even entertain a request for review, as they shift into a strategic offensive. We are watching that unfold right now.
If MAGA is not careful, continued demands for the removal of leftist voices, will create a political outcome where Democrats will position as the party of tolerance and free speech. This is how they get out of the downward spiral they were in. This issue is partly how they will seek to regain their numerical position in advance of the 2026 midterms.
♦ The influence of Israel. Again, this is an issue that can not only divide the MAGA coalition, but it can play directly into the hands of the political UniParty. I believe Charlie Kirk well understood this dynamic.
There are legitimate criticisms for the government of Israel that are well founded and well deserved. However, blaming Israel for every evil enterprise taking place within the U.S. body politic is not a good idea.
A substantive issue is not whether influential Israeli donors will stop funding grassroots conservatives, ie. MAGA voices, and the issue is not that Israeli donors will suddenly start giving Democrats money, fueling their own demise; the issue I believe Charlie Kirk was trying to navigate, is that influential Israeli donors will start funding traditional Republican opposition.
When Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson and similarly aligned voices begin aggressively pushing anti-Israel positions, regardless of their merit, the outcome is traditional Republican elements like Bush, McConnell, Rove, start smiling.
Remember, it was not Democrats who benefitted most from the destruction of the Tea Party in 2012, it was the Mitch McConnell, John McCain, and the Lindsey Graham professional wing of the GOP who benefitted.
When the voices of Candace, Tucker and Nick Fuentes begin carving away a big chunk of attention within the MAGA tent, it is the Ron DeSantis wing of the Republican base who benefits numerically and financially.
If we don’t want to see the Nikki Haley, Jeb Bush, Tim Scott, Ron DeSantis and Ted Cruz elements reemerge in out-scaled influence, then don’t fuel their bank accounts. Amplifying anti-Jewish sentiments, Israel conspiracy theories, and various iterations of pushback against the aggressive Zionist movement, ends up with folks like Bill Ackman, Larry Ellison, David Ellison and Ken Griffin fueling an anti-MAGA option. The professionally Republican club would like this outcome.
The MAGA tent needs to be very careful, thinking carefully about who benefits when the colosseum crowd begins throwing stones. The first stone throwers, the seeders per se’, may have an entirely different agenda than the majority of the crowd.
When the govt (think FBI) doesn’t provide details of events, generally the first reaction is to think they are hiding something. However, often the motive is to purposefully create a void where ‘conspiracies’ can thrive. Establishing the seeds for narratives, often entails setting up the opportunity for your opposition to label themselves. This how Machiavellian actors operate.
The Marxist (Democrat) leadership was NOT unhappy to see angered and emotional MAGA voices quickly set up a website where toxic leftist social media users were identified by name, identified by employment and targeted for financial retribution. What is called “cancelling” a person can also be called “doxxing” a person, and in several states that activity is illegal. What venue do you think a law firm like Perkins Coie would plan to launch their class action lawsuits from? Free representation for the hate-filled orcs, paid for by [fill_in_blank].
When you see Instagram, Facebook and even Google, suddenly amplifying the voice of Nick Fuentes, ask yourself why would the platforms that formerly banned the guy for toxic hate-speech (current forever ban ongoing), suddenly adjust their algorithms and start promoting video segments of Nick Fuentes. Does it make sense?
Who attends these mysterious conservative “influencer” assemblies that we sometimes hear about. Who is funding them. And if the gathering is for good, moral and honest reason, why do they get so defensive when asked who was in attendance.
We must ground ourselves in prayer daily. Really purposeful prayer.
7 “Be strong and very courageous. Be careful to obey all the law my servant Moses gave you; do not turn from it to the right or to the left, that you may be successful wherever you go. 8 Keep this Book of the Law always on your lips; meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do everything written in it. Then you will be prosperous and successful. 9 Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged, for the Lord your God will be with you wherever you go.”
Rather than “hate speech,” let’s focus on the real problem: incitement to violence. And this is where many of the anti-Charlie Kirk people cross the line. And yes, just approving of violence is also incitement to violence. This has no constitutional protection.
Hate speech doesn’t include telling people to go out and kill the President, Conservatives or anyone else. That’s inciting nutcases to commit murder. Hate speech is labeling people just like the Nazis did.
We’re not going to. Blondi does not speak for us. She tries to ban hate speech and you will hear from us.
Trump needs to fire Blondi.
If I spewed nasty things publicly at work for fellow staff, co workers, colleagues, clients and their families, nasty things such as- the president’s followers are responsible for Charlie Kirk being shot, I would be fired. If I weren’t fired any one of my audience could report me and my business to the legal authority and make big trouble, as it is not in my scope of practice to spread accusations of assassination on groups of people and groups of people associated with the President
Of course the FCC is allowed to comment I don’t care what time dillon or Tucker Carlson or Ted Cruz say about it. They’re wrong and their timing is bad. Talk about the free speech of Charlie Kirk and the lack thereof not a loser of a talk show host who knew he was on his way out
If you keep what Pam Bondi said in context, I believe she was referring to threatening speech, not hate speech. She just used a bad choice of words. That happens.
Yeah but words matter and she should be smart enough to know better.
Ditto. There is no such thing as hate speech, just like there’s no such thing as a hate crime. “Hate” is a “feeling”, which has no absolute definition and is open to interpretation.
The left started the Cancel Culture of banning speech.
I wish I knew why people can’t see the difference between Constitutionally protected Hate Speech and the violent and threatening unprotected speech most libtards engage in these days.
Why do you insist that President Trump fire anyone? Why can't you give the man the respect he deserves, knowing full well, that if he isn't happy with someone, they will be gone in the blink of an eye? He's already proven that over and over again, yet you persist. Until the time comes that he decides Pam Bondi isn't doing the job he hired her to do, you shouldn't sow dissent just because you haven't got instant gratification on the things you think you should. Every time you say something like this, you are undermining President Trump, which is what the RATS do all the time. They don't need your help People like you wouldn't be happy with anyone he put in that job because you are nothing but malcontents.
There's a difference between being fired by your company, and the government monitoring speech.
And now the right is going to admit they were right all along?
Some conflate protected speech with criminal speech. It gets challenging when calling someone a fascist or nazi is code for murder them. What then?
“Free speech” does not apply to corporations. They get to choose what is suitable for their best interests. Jimmy Kimmel is free to say what he likes- just not on TV
They started the use and acceptance of speech promoting violence against Republicans and Catholics. They started, and protected the acceptance of the perverted behavior of homos, queers, and tranny cultists. They went from supporting women's rights to the destruction of women's rights, especially in sports. They started the murder corporation that condemned babies to death. They've started everything evil that exists in this country today. Everything RATS touch turns to shit.
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