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Trump says India and Russia appear 'lost' to 'deepest, darkest China'
Reuters.com ^ | September 6, 202512:12 PM CDT | Reuters

Posted on 09/06/2025 1:38:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

WASHINGTON, Sept 6 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday said India and Russia seem to have been "lost" to China after their leaders met with Chinese President Xi Jinping this week, expressing his annoyance at New Delhi and Moscow as Beijing pushes a new world order.

"Looks like we've lost India and Russia to deepest, darkest, China. May they have a long and prosperous future together!" Trump wrote in a social media post accompanying a photo of the three leaders together at Xi's summit in China.

Later on Friday, however, he told reporters he didn't think the U.S. had lost India to China.
"I don't think we have," he said. "I've been very disappointed that India would be buying so much oil, as you know, from Russia. And I let them know that."

Asked about Trump's social media post, India's foreign ministry told reporters in New Delhi that it had no comment. The Chinese foreign ministry did not immediately reply to a request for comment and representatives for the Kremlin could not be immediately reached.

Xi hosted more than 20 leaders of non-Western countries for the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) summit in the Chinese port city of Tianjin, including Russian President Vladimir Putin and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

Putin and Modi were seen holding hands at the summit as they walked toward Xi before all three men stood side by side.

"I'll always be friends with Modi," Trump told reporters on Friday. "He's a great prime minister. He's great. I'll always...

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1 posted on 09/06/2025 1:38:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Don’t think navarro gave him correct advice on hitting india with 50% tariffs for something lots of other countries are doing... but not punishing any of them.

If they are lost to china maybe a 50% tariff nuke pushed them there very hard.


2 posted on 09/06/2025 1:42:26 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Because there has been a border dispute between India and China since the 1950s, I don’t see India as a willing partner of the Chinese.


3 posted on 09/06/2025 1:50:12 PM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Within living memory a lot of Indians also bought into the pagan Japanese "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity" propaganda and joined up to help the Japanese invade India. Little did the many dupes and useful idiots realize that they were permitted to join in order to relieve the strain on Japanese logistics by serving as traveling rations. LOL!
4 posted on 09/06/2025 1:51:09 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Mount Athos

WE should not wish to add India to the Axis of Evil. No need to make our enemies stronger. Lots of Indians have good reason to dislike the West and see Russia as their “friend” just as many Egyptians saw Nazi Germany as a natural ally.


5 posted on 09/06/2025 1:57:04 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (. War is Hell, War IS a Crime.)
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To: Mount Athos

Trump’s secondary sanctions could turn out to be a huge miscalculation, with serious long term implications for all of us.


6 posted on 09/06/2025 2:01:58 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Who would be responsible for that, Donald?


7 posted on 09/06/2025 2:03:43 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Hard to understand why Indian PM Modi would walk around in public, holding hands with two ruthless, nuclear armed, dictators.

Impossible to understand why all three of them would walk around in public with North Korea psychopath Kim Jong Un.

8 posted on 09/06/2025 2:03:46 PM PDT by zeestephen (Trump Landslide? Kamala lost the election by 230,000 votes, in WI, MI, and PA.)
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To: ETCM

Agreed. Terrible idea.

What could possibly have led to our ditching India?

Oh, wait: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/topic/pakistan-crypto-council


9 posted on 09/06/2025 2:04:40 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Because Trump refused to walk away from Ukraine when he should have.


10 posted on 09/06/2025 2:05:01 PM PDT by nonliberal (Russia is not my enemy.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hmmmmmmm...... Let’s see

President Trump’s “Enemies List”

Islamofascistnazis
Chicoms
The Deep State

And finally, Leftist Creepozoid democRATS and DemoKKKrats who despise all that is good, right, and just.

Adam Schiff may fall under all of the above since he will support anything that promotes his Anti Americanism.


11 posted on 09/06/2025 2:05:21 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try )
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To: 9YearLurker

If the blame is not put on Modi, the blamer is an idiot.


12 posted on 09/06/2025 2:08:01 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: zeestephen
Impossible to understand why all three of them would walk around in public with North Korea psychopath Kim Jong Un.


13 posted on 09/06/2025 2:08:49 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: jacknhoo

I’m not a cultist, but apparently you are.


14 posted on 09/06/2025 2:11:12 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

No, you’re the blamer I mentioned.


15 posted on 09/06/2025 2:14:24 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Maybe we should retrieve them.


16 posted on 09/06/2025 2:18:46 PM PDT by Savage Beast (NOTHING enkindles anger, hate, violence, and murderous fury like Truth threatening guarded delusion.)
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To: Mount Athos
Re: "Navarro did not give Trump correct advice on hitting India with 50% tariffs..."

Navarro did not make the decision.

Modi (through Indian oligarchs) is buying Russian oil for half price.

The oligarchs then sell it on the international market for full price, and split the profit with the Indian government.

The punitive 50% tariffs are Trump's way of saying that India must stop buying Russian oil, and that India must open up its economy to currently banned USA products.

17 posted on 09/06/2025 2:20:37 PM PDT by zeestephen (Trump Landslide? Kamala lost the election by 230,000 votes, in WI, MI, and PA.)
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To: jacknhoo

As I said...


18 posted on 09/06/2025 2:58:06 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Mount Athos

We are number 1 militarily for now, and we are very powerful economically, but we are no longer the unrivaled number 1 economically.

In 1960 we were alone >40% of the Worlds GDP. Today we’re like 22%. We do not carry the weight we once did.

China has already passed us up in many aspects: manufacturing they are twice our size (like 200%, no kidding!), in PPP, steel, electric, aluminum, glass, car production.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_motor_vehicle_production (they produce 3 cars for every 1 car produced in the US).

We flexed our muscle with Russia, tried to coerce folks regards BRICS, but what we really did was push folks towards China.

I’m afraid even Brazil is lost at this point. No kidding.

I was talking elsewhere with someone that tried to tell me how I shouldn’t bring China into the Ukraine war issue. That’s funny!

Biden and his idiotic proxy war with Russia, caused BRICS to expand massively in members and power, it gave China a huge economic boost as they filled the void when Western manufactures packed up and left Russia. Within BRICS China has assumed the leadership role, even though Russia is the mastermind behind it. Even China’s war machine has benefitted from this enormously both technologically and in terms of production. India on the fence before, chose Russia and China.

The Ukraine conflict is in every way about China in the bigger picture. The sanctions on Russia largely didn’t work because of China. Example: https://www.ajot.com/images/uploads/article/China_car_chart.png Clothing, cell phones, computers... all that happened is that Russia today is filled with “made in China.”

Meanwhile you still have some morons dreaming of an impending Chinese economic bubble bursting (that’s a dream that gets recycled constantly in conservative news - wishful thinking) and the sanctions bringing down Russia. LOL

I give it 10 years. By then China will even have achieved nuclear parity and will be outspending us for war: https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/teaser/30173.jpeg They already have more manpower and are close to us in military spending in actuality: https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/China-Military-Budget-Graphic.png?x85095

In 10 years, we will be confronted with China breathing down our neck like we are breathing down Russia’s today.

We will have to make a choice, do we ultimately go to war to retain our empire, or begin the slow decline as we get displaced from the Pacific Rim, Middle East, and Africa? Do we go MOSTLY peacefully into the night like the UK did post WWII, or fighting like Russia is today?

Again, the same situation Russia finds themselves in today as we gobble them up in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Venezuela, even along their border in Ukraine, Republic of Georgia, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia we will find ourselves in with China.

While Russia is weaker, an older empire in decline, they have a massive defense infrastructure and technological base and that will likely back up China on the way forward (they were built up as a world super-power).

I have a suspicious feeling that China in a few years will dominate our news and political discussion.

Do you really think India isn’t seeing the handwriting on the wall?

I hope I’m reading more into things than there really is. I really hope I’m just finding those facts that substantiate my predisposed belief (validation error). But as I see things, Ukraine set things in motion regards Russia and China moving closer, India choosing sides, BRICS massively expanding in scope and members, China getting a major economic and military boost. IMHO, Biden was/is a senile old idiot that was a useful tool for anyone that could pay. That man has led us into very dangerous waters long term, even though some think we weakened Russia (which we surely did).


19 posted on 09/06/2025 2:59:31 PM PDT by Red6
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I remember when India and China went to fist city several times in the 1970s and later. Now they are huggy kissy?


20 posted on 09/06/2025 3:12:38 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( REOPEN THE MENTAL HOSPITALS CLOSED IN THE 1970S!)
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