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Air India 171 Update: Fuel Cutoff Switches in 'Cutoff' Position according to WSJ
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Posted on 07/11/2025 5:59:30 PM PDT by delta7

The Official Preliminary Report is out, and confirms the fuel cutoff switch directly after takeoff: both switches found in in the off positions.


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To: Gary from Dayton; Nextrush
Stupid, man, just stupid.

Concur
61 posted on 07/11/2025 9:21:40 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.=)
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To: delta7

“both switches found in in the off positions”

Not quite correct. According to the official Preliminary Report, the switches were put into the cut-off position but were then put back into the run position - and both were found in the run position. It appears, unfortunately, they were put into the cut-off position at just about the worse possible moment - somewhere between V1 and VR on the take off roll - which left not enough time to restart the engines after take off.


62 posted on 07/11/2025 9:50:44 PM PDT by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: BenLurkin
"Apu, why did you cut off the fuel?"

"Rakumar, I did not cut off the fuel!"

"Oh, OK."

63 posted on 07/11/2025 9:54:14 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Pelham

“A JetBlue captain who I know suspected this exact issue back when the crash happened.”

I’d be a whole lot of us had it high up on our lists.


64 posted on 07/11/2025 10:28:51 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too. 😁 " - Robert Conquest )
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To: linMcHlp
“Intended to hit the brakes, but hit the gas.”

I've actually done that. Very exciting for a few seconds.

This goes way past absent-mindedness.

[Trying not to make the "that's not it..." analogy.]

65 posted on 07/11/2025 10:40:22 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too. 😁 " - Robert Conquest )
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To: delta7

Pilot/Copilot suicide?


66 posted on 07/11/2025 11:04:47 PM PDT by Taxman (MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! SUPPORT THE FAIRTAX!)
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To: delta7

Pretty comprehensive list of flight time

Gator is cop or ex cop

Didn’t know he flew passenger too

L1011s took me the world over in the 80s

200,000 miles a year


67 posted on 07/11/2025 11:25:03 PM PDT by wardaddy ( The Blob must be bled dry but don’t hold your breath )
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To: BenLurkin

No, that’s not how the system works.


68 posted on 07/12/2025 12:07:06 AM PDT by airplaneguy
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To: Ahithophel
The fuel switch for each engine is spring-loaded, meaning it’s not flicked on and off like a light switch. The switch must be grasped, pulled up, moved to the opposite position, and released. The released switch then descends and seats into place. Nigh unto impossible for the both fuel cut off switches to have moved by incidental contact.

There seems to be some history of those switches being installed with the lockouts disabled. I'm uncertain if the problem lies with the components of the installers. Either way, that should be a punch-list item to be checked before the jet's initial flight.

69 posted on 07/12/2025 12:17:47 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: TexasGator

A guy name Captain Steeeve has a YouTube about it. He also has a doctorate in counseling. He ends his analysis with a talk about the problems of pilot suicide


70 posted on 07/12/2025 1:13:52 AM PDT by Dr. Zzyzx
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To: delta7

I retried using the:

https://aaib.gov.in/What‘s%20New%20Assets/Preliminary%20Report%20VT-ANB.pdf

again with MY Default Browser DuckDuckGo, I also tried with Brave and Firefox Browsers and got the same error as earlier. All 3 are the latest versions.

No VPN’s in use.

I’m not gonna worry about it. Those People are deceased and Me seeing that page is not going to bring Them back. Prayers for Their Families and Friends.

I no longer use Air Transportation because of the Totality Stupid A$$}{0£€’s and the stupid crap 💩 they call SECURITY !!! I have been to Hawaii and don’t go anywhere overseas. I will Road Trip it in America if I have to go somewhere.

Thank You, Stay Safe and Take Care.🙏🇺🇸


71 posted on 07/12/2025 1:55:14 AM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! I’m a fraud, hypocrite & liar. I'm a member of Congress!! )
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To: Mr. Jeeves
"Not Air France, Germanwings - a Lufthansa subsidiary."

Thanks. I'm amazed at how lousy my recall has gotten as I age.

And I usually have no idea. So thanks again!

72 posted on 07/12/2025 2:49:01 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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To: PLMerite

A friend of mine, had his late 1950’s Beech Bonanza completely restored. Looked and ran great!

Within days, he landed . . . without lowering the landing gear.


73 posted on 07/12/2025 3:06:51 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: PLMerite

Friend either forgot . . . or imagined that he had lowered the gear.


74 posted on 07/12/2025 3:11:05 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: delta7

I’d read that there is a fire prevention scenario that will activate the cutoffs automatically. The idea that there were cutoffs lurking in the system scared the hell out of me.


75 posted on 07/12/2025 4:06:12 AM PDT by TalBlack (Their god is government. Prepare for a religious war.https://freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=4322961%2)
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To: delta7

These so called switches don’t work like regular SPST switches. The must be pulled up, rotated, then pulled down. This was a suicide mission.


76 posted on 07/12/2025 5:26:33 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: TexasGator

Pilot, copilot, or jump seater?


77 posted on 07/12/2025 5:29:07 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: delta7

1. Poor training
2. Ignoring checklists
3. Sabotage

What do you think?


78 posted on 07/12/2025 5:31:58 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: delta7

I’d take everything we’re reading/hearing/watching with a grain of salt, including this tick tock...

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/from-take-off-to-mayday-a-second-by-second-timeline-of-air-india-flight-171s-fatal-final-moments-101752294753097.html


79 posted on 07/12/2025 5:34:56 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: mewzilla

From anyone else curious, per the info at the link below...

https://www.deccanherald.com/india/air-india-plane-crash-black-box-data-successfully-extracted-cvr-fdr-analysis-underway-3603745

...both the CVR and the FDR were read in India.


80 posted on 07/12/2025 5:40:14 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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