Posted on 07/11/2025 5:59:30 PM PDT by delta7
Ruled it a suicide, actually murder/suicide as 150+ people were on board.
Interesting to note, page 15, number two engine was able to relight, but it was of course too late.
Interesting also is the forward FDR was intact, the aft FDR unable to download by normal means due to severe damage. The CVR ( Cockpit Voice Recorder) data was retrieved.
That is a deliberate process that requires you to pull the switches up, move them over the gate to the off position and let them drop down to the off position. Not something you can do accidentally. So the question begs, was one of the pilots, probably the pilot monitoring, a moslem?
When I opened the Link this was the page that opened:
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Apache Tomcat/10.1.17
They're behind the throttles. The landing gear switch is up on the instrument panel. Literally around almost four feet apart.
When they hardened the cockpit doors, it presented different problems.Preventing unauthorized access ( hijackers) fine and dandy, but what happens when both pilot and co-pilot are incapacitated?
There is a code one can enter on the keypad by the cockpit door, however there is also a cockpit door denial switch located on the cockpit overhead panel….guess their sterile cockpit logic doesn’t apply when either pilot or co pilot is suicidal.
Not Air France, Germanwings - a Lufthansa subsidiary. First officer was a young, mentally disturbed, suicidal homosexual - locked the Captain out of the cockpit when he rent to the restroom and glided the aircraft right into the Alps.
The Indian Aviation Ministry report.
https://aaib.gov.in/What‘s%20New%20Assets/Preliminary%20Report%20VT-ANB.pdf
Opens fine for me.
A JetBlue captain who I know suspected this exact issue back when the crash happened.
He said that it has happened before, by mistake, but it’s been at altitude and the pilots have had time to recover and restart the engines.
This time they had the extreme bad luck of no altitude and no time.
Well, there goes the accidental explanation. I guess it was deliberate.
“A JetBlue captain who I know suspected this exact issue back when the crash happened.
He said that it has happened before, by mistake, but it’s been at altitude and the pilots have had time to recover and restart the engines.”
There is no way these switches were moved by accident especially on takeoff.
At the very least, I would expect a legitimate action to be announced over the radio, and heard by a voice recorder.
Loaded airplane, full fuel, at or just after rotation and cutting off the fuel to both engines is DEI enough to be possible, but it sounds more like a murder/suicide.
Very interesting video from a Seasoned Pilot.
This crash was an intentional act of Murder from one of the Pilots.
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Exactly, deliberate.
The fuel cutoff switches close or open the spar valves. The spar valves allow fuel to flow from the tanks to the engines. They are located in the wing tanks at the front spar. Pulling the fire handles also close the spar valves. With the fuel control switches in the cutoff position, the spar valves are closed and the engines will not run. They are used to shut down the engines when the plane gets to the gate. On engine start, the fuel control switches switches are moved to the run position, and when the engine start is initiated, the spar valves open.
“To this day Egypt claims he is innocent and blames the aircraft for malfunctioning.”
I remember that one. IIRC the guy was Muslim Brotherhood and transporting Egyptian Army officers.
The CVR recorded him saying “Journey to Death” before he crashed the plane.
That is my understanding as well.
Do we know names of both pilots?
Human error. Thinking an action is being done . . . but unaware that another action is being done.
Muscle memory, anxiety, fatigue, “under pressure” <— known and/or unknown.
“Intended to turn right, but turned left.”
“Intended to hit the brakes, but hit the gas.”
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