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Vance Outlines U.S. Plan for Ukraine That Sharply Favors Russia
The New York Times ^
| April 23, 2025 | Updated 3:32 p.m. ET
| Michael D. Shear and Mark Landler
Posted on 04/23/2025 4:19:01 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Vice President JD Vance on Wednesday called on Ukraine to accept an American peace proposal that closely aligns with longstanding Russian goals, including a “freeze” of territorial lines in the three-year war, acceptance of the annexation of Crimea by Russia and a prohibition on Ukraine becoming part of the NATO alliance.
It was the first time a U.S. official had publicly laid out a plan to end the war that favors Russia in such stark terms.
The comments by the vice president appeared designed to increase pressure on President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, who has long refused to accept Russian’s occupation of his country’s lands, including the seizure of Crimea in 2014 and territory taken by Russia after it invaded Ukraine in early 2022.
In a second blow to Mr. Zelensky, President Trump lashed out at the Ukrainian president on Wednesday afternoon, writing on Truth Social, his social media site, that “he can have Peace or, he can fight for another three years.”
Mr. Vance, speaking during a trip to India, said the United States would “walk away” from the peace process if both Ukraine and Russia refused to accept the American terms. But Mr. Zelensky was clearly the target.
“We’ve issued a very explicit proposal to both the Russians and the Ukrainians, and it’s time for them to either say yes or for the United States to walk away from this process,” Mr. Vance told reporters. “The only way...”
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Trump’s comments from earlier today seemed to suggest that such a declaration over Crimea was NOT part of the deal.
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posted on
04/23/2025 4:21:24 PM PDT
by
mbrfl
To: E. Pluribus Unum
It’s either this or continue without the US.
Choose.
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posted on
04/23/2025 4:21:49 PM PDT
by
Mariner
(War Criminal #18)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Vance Outlines U.S. Plan for Ukraine That Sharply Favors Russia
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posted on
04/23/2025 4:25:39 PM PDT
by
Navy Patriot
(President Trump Decisively Won Popular & E.C., Celebrate Recivilization!)
To: Navy Patriot
I’m just here for the popcorn.
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posted on
04/23/2025 4:26:48 PM PDT
by
Salamander
(Please visit my profile page to help me go home again. https://www.givesendgo.com/GCRRD)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
--- " 'We've issued a very explicit proposal to both the Russians and the Ukrainians, and it's time for them to either say yes or for the United States to walk away from this process,' Mr. Vance told reporters. "
Several from the Trump-Vance administration have said something like this for a number of days now.
It's time for those fine Brit, French and German leaders to lead themselves into battle. After a next round of meetings to decide when another round of meetings and fine buffets can be had....
To: E. Pluribus Unum
“Mr. Vance, speaking during a trip to India, said the United States would ‘walk away’ from the peace process if both Ukraine and Russia refused to accept the American terms.”
Great, as it should be.
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posted on
04/23/2025 4:27:46 PM PDT
by
Jyotishi
(Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
To: All
Well unfortunately the Ukraine has no cards.
They could have gotten a better deal if they made a peace deal right near the start of the invasion but the Western powers really thought Russia would crumble in a week after the sanctions.
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posted on
04/23/2025 4:27:59 PM PDT
by
escapefromboston
(Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
OK. So let’s hear the rest of Europe and the democrat party proposals? Fight until every Ukrainian is dead and Putin captures the whole nation? Declare war on Putin and send an EU invasion force?
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posted on
04/23/2025 4:28:25 PM PDT
by
Organic Panic
(Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
The New York Times is NOT a credible source...
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posted on
04/23/2025 4:32:11 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
(If 11 million illegals must have 'due process' to be deported - it'll bankrupt our court system.)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
The New York Times, as has been true throughout their infamous history, just loves cheerleading for war and misery.
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Walking away isn’t the end of the U.S’s involvement. It’s part of the negotiations. We may walk away a few times during the course of this.
To: E. Pluribus Unum
It’s a reality-based plan. Despite all the money the dems flushed into the Ukraine war effort, the current borders are where they are. “Give it back” is not a realistic bargaining ploy for peace; just a challenge to keep killing people.
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posted on
04/23/2025 4:36:36 PM PDT
by
Bernard
(Issue an annual budget. And Issue a federal government balance sheet. Let's see what we got.)
To: GOPJ
All you have to do is read the headline to know this isn’t a serious article.
Every day I’m amazed at how much lower my opinion of them can go. Pretty soon it’s gonna be deep in the earth’s core.
To: E. Pluribus Unum
The current war situation favors Russia. How much more destruction of Ukraine Zelensky desires?
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posted on
04/23/2025 4:37:03 PM PDT
by
Bobbyvotes
(I am in mid-80's and I am not gonna change my opinions.)
To: Bobbyvotes
The current war situation favors Russia. How much more destruction of Ukraine Zelensky desires? That can't be true.
The Zeepers contend Ukraine is winning.
Just ask one of them.
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posted on
04/23/2025 4:38:32 PM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
MEMO to "The Slimes:"
The battlefield reality favors the Russians. And it isn't going to get more Ukrainian-friendly short of a U.S,-led escalation that would risk nuclear escalation.
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posted on
04/23/2025 4:40:14 PM PDT
by
Lysandru
To: Lysandru
Basically, we’re at a turning point similar to Korea in 1953.
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posted on
04/23/2025 4:48:09 PM PDT
by
rfp1234
(E Porcibus Unum)
To: rfp1234
To: kaktuskid
Except this time, it will be the Brits, French, Germans, Danes, and a few others who attempt to patrol it. Best of luck with that.
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posted on
04/23/2025 4:51:37 PM PDT
by
rfp1234
(E Porcibus Unum)
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