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BREAKING: Luigi Mangione indicted on federal charges in UHC CEO killing which makes him eligible for the death penalty if convicted
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| 04/18/2025
| LibsOfTickTock
Posted on 04/17/2025 6:23:26 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
BREAKING: Luigi Mangione indicted on federal charges in UHC CEO killing which makes him eligible for the death penalty if convicted
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KEYWORDS: federalcharges; frymangione; imeimeimeimdp0622; mangione
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Let's hope he's tried and executed PDQ.
To: SmokingJoe
Well, now we’ll hear all the lib chicks crying for him ‘oh no! He’s too good looking to do that to’.
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posted on
04/17/2025 6:24:36 PM PDT
by
Beowulf9
( )
To: SmokingJoe
Yeah this guy is bad news. He needs to go.
To: SmokingJoe
Would be great to see Taylor LORENZ and all them deranged far left girls who sent him naked pics of themselves, tear their hair in frustration when he's convicted.
To: SmokingJoe
Fry the effer and leave the bag off his head so we can watch his eyeballs pop
To: Beowulf9
Taylor Lorenz already did this week.
To: SmokingJoe
If a health insurance company is committing unsavory practices, there are many, many lawyers who would be thrilled to represnt someone against them for big bucks.
I don’t like when that company hid its results showing hat oxycontin was more addictive than thought. They got sued and paid a tremendous fine..good enough? Porbably not.
But there is no justification for shooting someone to death or shooting them at all for possibly being an unsavory character.
I think 25 percent of our population would meet that target :)
It was a cowardly shooting by what appears not to be an indigent in a rage, but a spoiled punk.
End him.
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posted on
04/17/2025 6:28:33 PM PDT
by
dp0622
(Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
To: SmokingJoe
Fry the lunatic. Then quarter the remains and send the pieces across the kingdom, one in each of the four directions as a warning to other lunatics.
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posted on
04/17/2025 6:30:44 PM PDT
by
Frank Drebin
(And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
To: SmokingJoe
That nutbag female from the NYT can go to scream, cry, and rend her garments outside the prison when they fry him.
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posted on
04/17/2025 6:31:10 PM PDT
by
simpson96
To: dp0622
You can’t go about shooting people in the street over political disagreements.
This guy’s done.
To: Beowulf9
There were a couple of FReepers who were acting like those chicks.
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posted on
04/17/2025 6:33:28 PM PDT
by
DoodleBob
(Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s² )
To: SmokingJoe
What you said.
I’m rambling a little tonight :)
Your post saved time! Of course you are right
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posted on
04/17/2025 6:33:53 PM PDT
by
dp0622
(Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
To: Beowulf9
Are we even sure he’s not already knocked up one of the female prison guards?
Seems to happen often lately.
To: SmokingJoe
Somewhere tens of thousands of wack job women and queers are in tears headed by Taylor Lorenz. Spit.
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posted on
04/17/2025 6:38:35 PM PDT
by
DAC21
To: All
Found elsewhere:
...federal indictment... Thursday
2 counts of stalking
1 count of murder through use of a firearm and a firearms offense for an allegation that he used a silencer.
::::::::
Anyone know how those are federal offenses?
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posted on
04/17/2025 6:40:56 PM PDT
by
Bigg Red
( Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.)
To: SmokingJoe
Too bad there is no real content on x. I would like to see the indictment.
To: SmokingJoe
Find a tall tree
and 'decorate' it...
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posted on
04/17/2025 6:43:05 PM PDT
by
Carriage Hill
(A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
To: SmokingJoe
Why Luigi Mangione Was Indicted on Federal and State Charges
Luigi Mangione was indicted on both federal and state charges, not exclusively federal ones, for the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson on December 4, 2024. The federal charges were added due to specific aspects of the case that gave federal authorities jurisdiction, while state charges were pursued concurrently because the crime occurred in New York. Below is a breakdown of why federal charges were included alongside state charges.
Why Federal Charges Were Filed
- Interstate Activity: Mangione’s actions involved crossing state lines, giving federal authorities jurisdiction. He traveled from Atlanta to New York City by bus on November 24, 2024, to stalk and kill Thompson. Federal charges, such as interstate stalking and murder through the use of a firearm, were applicable because the crime spanned multiple states.
- Nature of the Crime: The federal complaint alleges Mangione planned the murder to spark a national debate about the healthcare industry, framing it as an act with broader implications. This intent to influence a national audience and the use of interstate facilities (e.g., travel and communications) supported federal charges like stalking through interstate facilities and murder with a firearm, which carry severe penalties, including the death penalty.
- Federal Resources and Penalties: Federal charges were pursued to leverage the possibility of the death penalty, which is not available under New York state law (New York abolished its death penalty in 2004). The federal charge of murder through the use of a firearm explicitly allows for capital punishment, aligning with Attorney General Pam Bondi’s directive to seek it in this case.
- Evidence of Broader Intent: Mangione’s notebook, found upon his arrest, contained writings expressing hostility toward the health insurance industry and plans to target an insurance CEO at an investor conference. This evidence suggested a premeditated act with potential to intimidate a civilian population, supporting federal charges that frame the crime as more than a localized murder.
Why State Charges Were Also Filed
- Crime Location: The murder occurred in Midtown Manhattan, giving New York state and city authorities primary jurisdiction. The Manhattan District Attorney’s Office, led by Alvin Bragg, indicted Mangione on 11 state charges, including first-degree murder in furtherance of terrorism, second-degree murder, and weapons offenses, reflecting the state’s interest in prosecuting a high-profile crime committed within its borders.
- Terrorism Allegations: New York state charges include murder as an act of terrorism under a post-9/11 law, which enhances penalties for crimes intended to intimidate civilians or influence government policy. Prosecutors argued the public nature of the shooting, in a busy Manhattan area, and the words “delay,” “deny,” and “depose” etched on shell casings (criticizing insurance practices) supported this charge. This terrorism designation carries a mandatory life sentence without parole if convicted, a significant state-level penalty.
- State Case Priority: Prosecutors have indicated the state case is expected to proceed to trial first, suggesting New York’s primary role in addressing the crime locally. The state’s evidence, including surveillance video and the alleged murder weapon, strengthens its case.
Additional Context
- Pennsylvania Charges: Mangione also faces five charges in Pennsylvania, where he was arrested on December 9, 2024, including forgery, carrying a firearm without a license, and false identification. These are secondary to the New York cases and relate to his actions during the manhunt.
- Coordination and Double Jeopardy Concerns: Mangione’s attorney, Karen Friedman Agnifilo, has criticized the dual state and federal prosecutions as potentially conflicting, arguing the state’s terrorism charges (focused on intimidating a population) and federal stalking charges (focused on an individual) are inconsistent. She raised double jeopardy concerns, though federal and state prosecutions can proceed separately under the dual sovereignty doctrine.
- Public and Political Pressure: The high-profile nature of the case, coupled with public debate over Mangione’s motives and the healthcare industry, likely influenced the decision to pursue federal charges to ensure maximum penalties and national attention. Attorney General Bondi framed the murder as “political violence,” aligning with a broader federal agenda to address violent crime.
Summary
Mangione was not indicted solely on federal charges; he faces 20 total counts across federal, New York state, and Pennsylvania state courts. Federal charges were added because of interstate travel, the use of a firearm, and the crime’s broader implications, which allowed for the death penalty. State charges were pursued due to the crime’s occurrence in New York and the applicability of terrorism laws, with the state case likely taking precedence in trial order. The dual prosecutions reflect the case’s complexity and high stakes, though they’ve sparked legal concerns about fairness and coordination.
New York State will try Mangione first, focusing on the murder as an act of terrorism, with a potential life sentence.
Federal authorities will try him afterward, seeking the death penalty for murder with a firearm and interstate stalking.
Pennsylvania will likely try him last, addressing lesser charges related to his arrest, with no set trial date.
The total of 20 charges across these jurisdictions reflects the case’s complexity, with New York’s state case taking precedence due to the crime’s location and the state’s robust evidence, including surveillance footage and the alleged murder weapon.
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posted on
04/17/2025 6:48:33 PM PDT
by
ProtectOurFreedom
(All we want is the same deportation policy that Martha's Vineyard has. That's it.)
To: SmokingJoe
He shot an unarmed stranger in the back after stalking him to the place of the murder.
Yes, death penalty seems appropriate.
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posted on
04/17/2025 7:22:36 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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posted on
04/17/2025 7:32:40 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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