Posted on 04/17/2025 5:45:16 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
Cenk Uygur @cenkuygur
If @nytimes is right and Trump refused Israel's request to attack Iran, he deserves a ton of credit for that. Times reporting @TulsiGabbard made the argument against the strike - huge credit for that. @JDVance also spoke against. Not a lot of good news lately, but this is great.
4:24 PM · Apr 17, 2025
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If I remember correctly, Cenk got mugged. That seemed to help him if he did.
If I remember correctly, Cenk got mugged. That seemed to help him if he did.
Why do I know that name? Is Cenk one of The Young Turks?
Why does Israel need to ask Trump’s permission?
It was supposed to be a joint operation.
If NY Times is right and Trump refused Israel's request to attack Iran, he deserves a mark of "F" on his report card for that.
Why does anyone here think the NYT is telling the truth?
L
(Is Cenk one of The Young Turks?)
Sure is!
/bingo
(and Trump refused Israel’s request to attack Iran, he deserves a mark of “F” on his report card for that.)
Why?
Israel’s Leftists lining up to attack Netanyahu for agreeing for now to the Trump approach:
https://matzav.com/yair-lapid-blasts-netanyahu-say-netanyahu-was-afraid-to-attack-iran/
...Yair Lapid, head of the opposition, posted on X/Twitter that back in October he had suggested targeting Iran’s oil industry.
“Destroying Iran’s oil industry would have caused its economy to collapse and would have ultimately brought down the regime. Netanyahu was afraid, so he prevented the move,” Lapid wrote.
Benny Gantz, who leads the National Unity party, echoed the urgency of neutralizing Iran’s nuclear ambitions in his own message on X.
Naftali Bennett, Israel’s former prime minister and a current political figure, also weighed in on the article and broader issue...
...At this moment, America is strong while the regime and its proxies are temporarily weaker than ever, almost defenseless,” he said.
“It would be a historic miss to allow Iran to regroup and threaten us—the US, Israel and the rest of the world—again,” he concluded...
Why? Because SuperLuminal gets his rocks off watching war porn?
Yeah with us dealing with the blowback
aka Chunk Yogurt.
If...?
Israel's request?
24 karat Baloney!
Source: Jewish Insider
By Marc Rod
April 16, 2025
Israeli strikes scuttled; Trump rejected Israeli plan for
striking Iranian nuclear program: Jewish Insider report
The president reportedly chose to pursue talks with Iran over supporting Israeli strikes and told Israeli officials he would not back them while negotiations are ongoing
Faced with fault lines inside his own administration over Iran policy, President Donald Trump rejected an Israeli plan, which would have required American backing and potential U.S. involvement, to strike Iran’s nuclear program as soon as May, The New York Times reported on Wednesday.
The Times reported that Trump chose instead to pursue diplomatic talks with Iran, which began last Saturday and have fueled concerns among Iran hawks in both the U.S. and Israel that the U.S. may make concessions on key issues that would allow Iran to retain some of its nuclear program. He reportedly told Israeli officials he would not back a military strike while talks are ongoing.
Vice President JD Vance, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Chief of Staff Susie Wiles all reportedly weighed in against the plan. Vance and Gabbard in particular have been seen as key figures in the more isolationist wing of the administation.
NEW YORK TIMES — Israel had planned to strike Iranian nuclear sites as soon as next month but was waved off by President Trump in recent weeks in favor of negotiating a deal with Tehran to limit its nuclear program, according to administration officials and others briefed on the discussions.
Israeli officials had recently developed plans to attack Iranian nuclear sites in May. They were prepared to carry them out, and at times were optimistic that the United States would sign off. The goal of the proposals, according to officials briefed on them, was to set back Tehran’s ability to develop a nuclear weapon by a year or more.
Almost all of the plans would have required U.S. help not just defend Israel from Iranian retaliation, but also to ensure that an Israeli attack was successful, making the United States a central part of the attack itself.
For now, Mr. Trump has chosen diplomacy over military action. In his first term, he tore up the Iran nuclear deal negotiated by the Obama administration. But in his second term, eager to avoid being sucked into another war in the Middle East, he has opened negotiations with Tehran, giving it a deadline of just a few months to negotiate a deal over its nuclear program.
Israel can disarm Iran. But it will entail more “collateral casualties” than if usaf just wipes out the Iranian dictators’ nuclear bomb and ICBM factories. Which can be achieved in a very short amount of time and with. O USA troops in the ground.
Secondly, it perhaps firstly, it is USA that the mullahs want and plan to
Bomb first. Their icbm development faculties wouldn’t even be necessary for item to attack Arabia, Qatar,, UAE, Kuwait, Israel and Jordan. The Iranian dictators do want to destroy Israel but that’s maybe their third objective. Per their own statements. (1) USA. (2) take over the oil resources in the Arab- controlled lands. (3) bomb Jerusalem/ Tel Aviv.
I’m guessing they were not asking Trump for permission to do it themselves. They were asking Trump to do it for them.
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