Posted on 04/03/2025 3:06:05 PM PDT by Salman
Yeshiva University’s approval of a campus LGBTQ+ club in a landmark settlement seemed to herald a new era of acceptance for queer students at the flagship Orthodox Jewish university. But amid uproar in the wider Orthodox community, the school’s rabbinic leaders have tried to make clear in the days since that nothing could be further from the truth.
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Were the school forced to recognize a club that espoused pride in queer identity, one RIETS rosh yeshiva (head rabbi) indicated he would quit.
“It would be akin to the Yeshiva being asked to teach the New Testament,” said Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz, RIETS’ director of ordination, in a March 28 episode of Halacha Headlines, a podcast about Orthodox community issues. “You would sooner shut down the Yeshiva than teach the New Testament.”
The rabbis’ comments, which framed queerness as a choice driven by one’s evil inclination, reveals that the settlement did little to bridge the chasm between queer Jews and the most respected authorities in Modern Orthodox Judaism. And they reflected broader uncertainty about how much power the university will have to regulate the new club.
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And all the societal issues you'd expect.
But the rabbis are more resistant to gay stuff than the religious authorities at other religions' sectarian schools, such as Notre Dame.
I'd be interested in hearing some observations from Orthodox Jewsih Freepers.
Wow, that bad?
Faggotry-be gone!
They’re rooted in reality....nature’s reality and God’s reality.
Leviticus is clear: Dudes may not.
Torah is silent about chicks. Hmmmm…..
Yeah seriously it’s like tell us how you really feel
I think this is verifiably false. Yeshiva has all the trappings of a sectarian school, but in order to qualify for government assistance they've adopted all the worst characteristics of a secular university.
Their mission statement says the school's mission is "to educate, empower and inspire our students to become the next generation of leaders, guided at all times by our core values. We do this through a transformative, world-class, and interdisciplinary education that is deep and broad and that cultivates in our students a sense of meaning, purpose and drive to make the world a better place -- for themselves and for future generations."
That's the same kind of bland crap you'll find at a "Christian" university, a state school, or an Ivy League institution.
I'm frankly surprised they've managed to carry out this charade for so long without having more of these legal/moral conflicts played out in the open.
Your ignorance of history keeps you from accepting the New Testament. On the other hand, history shows that homosexuality leads to societal decay.
I think he’s just commenting on what was written in the article
The Rabbis are not “more resistant to gay stuff” as you put it. They are merely reading their scripture and understanding its plain language. We Torah Orthodox Jews actually firmly believe in the Torah. Acceptance of that which is abhorrent to G-d is forbidden. Other than the ideologues of the “gay” movement, especially those perverting the meaning of the Torah, I hold no hostility of any kind to people who are different. I might think they are wrong and doing sins, but I do nothing more than disagree.
In order to farm government support, Yeshiva University split its general education schools from its rabbinic school long ago. Several prominent rabbis quit and warned the abomination invaders would take over.
It has ceased to be an Orthodox institution. Beth Medrash Govoha has become the go-to for actual traditional rabbinic ordination.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/405796
Do you not understand that Christianity is, in fact, heresy according to the Torah? With all due respect, I don’t condemn anyone who wants to believe what they want to believe, but how can you think it would be OK to teach heretical teachings in a sectarian institution?
Friendly fire Niccolo
You all should wonder why.
A friend graduated from Yeshiva University many years ago, top of his class. Then he converted to Christianity. He announced his conversion before the graduation ceremony, so the U. would not give him a diploma.
Sadly, many of us at YU are upset over the club, in spite of the insistence that it’s only a “support group.”
To me, it’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Or rather, a Trojan Horse. I predict further, insidious attempts to push their philosophy and lifestyle. What if they demand posters everywhere, or library book talks? What if they demand integration into course curriculum?
For many years, YU relied on federal funding. But back then, “gay rights” was never an issue. Those students were few and closeted. Others, simply, went somewhere else. Why go where you’re not wanted? No one with common sense would go to a place antithetical to their lifestyle or identity.
But these people are determined to make a statement. They have an agenda, one with inherent evilness.
Open acceptance by many students of the Alphabet crowd shows the direction the Modern Orthodox movement is headed. Probably mass migration to other institutions — or abandonment of college altogether — will follow.
The Alphabet crowd will find that they won the battle but lost the war.
As it was even in secular schools a few decades ago.
The second rule of Yeshiva LGBTQ+ Club is you have to compete in rope-less Tug-of-War."
(credit to Tyrus for coming up with that one)
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