Posted on 03/26/2025 8:20:38 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Wednesday upheld a Biden administration regulation on the nearly impossible-to-trace weapons called ghost guns, clearing the way for continued serial numbers, background checks and age verification requirements to buy them in kits online.
Seven justices joined the opinion, authored by Justice Neil Gorsuch, upholding the rule. Two justices, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito, dissented.
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Ghost guns are any privately made firearms without the serial numbers that allow police to trace weapons used in crime. The 2022 regulation was focused on kits sold online with everything needed to build a functioning firearm — sometimes in less than 30 minutes, according to court documents.
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The media creating the name “ghost guns” is some nasty business, and that ability to create names is one of their greatest powers.
This article reminded me of something. Many counties in the old communist block required typewriters to be registered, along with their serial numbers.
Can’t trust the average citizen! They’re always up to no good.
We control the BATF now, we can just revoke the regulation.
Surprised it was a 7-2 decision.
“firearms without the serial numbers that allow police to trace weapons used in crime.”
This is a famous movie trope. It is almost unheard of as a crime solving technique except on 1970s TV shows. Pretty much it’s only use is so they know who a recovered gun was stolen from.
I do not let my lineage watch any kind of law enforcement show on any media due to the abhorrent propaganda!!
Is it currently illegal to possess a ghost gun? I, uhh, know a guy, who has an 80% lower for an AR-10. Would it be illegal to machine it out and do a build?
Isn’t this in direct contradiction to their Bruen decision?
The 2nd amendment be damned.
The opinion overturned the appellate decision that the ATF's rule facially exceeded the definitions of a firearm granting ATF regulatory authority because some unfinished receivers may be sufficiently finished to constitute a firearm under the GCA's definitions.
The appellate court had ruled that an unfinished receiver is facially not a firearm subject to regulation.
The SCOTUS decision says that whether an unfinished receiver is subject to GCA depends on how close to being finished the frame actually is.
So the plaintiffs will have to go back and argue in a friendly circuit that their unfinished receivers and/or kits are not sufficiently finished to count as a receiver. They will be aided by the fact that the ATF was happy with the 80% rule that was mutually agreed upon with manufacturers and in force for a couple of decades.
The worst part of the decision is that the majority were bamboozled by reports from Dem jurisdictions about the "explosion" in "ghost guns" without considered that the problem is not the guns but the explosion of felons out left on the street by those same jurisdictions, and the court apparently prefers restrictions on the 2nd Amendment liberties of the majority vs. insisting upon the states first trying to get control of their criminal population.
Some infringements of rights may be justified in genuine emergencies such as wartime, but not due to manufactured emergencies such as high crime resulting from lack of enforcement.
This will soon be overcome. 3D printing/sintering is getting ever better. The files are out there in the wild. It’s already possible to print a workable firearm and it will eventually, sooner than later, become even more feasible.
Just like it’s spelled out in the 2nd amendme...........oh.
Smart. If they are interested, have them watch some Adam-12 or Dragnet, honest cop good guy kinda things.
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These Tories need to be deported to England. The entirety of their existence on the Supreme Court is based on the Constitution which they discard.
I am no lawyer. But I think the decision is really about the legality of regulation. (I also think its pretty narrow based on what I have seen here, complete kits only?) Trump is doing a lot of executive orders that are or will be reflected in department policy and regulation. We want the exec to have that power when we have a ‘common sense’ leader in the WH.
This ATF rule was a Biden regulation. So Trump could make the regulation go away and the USSC decision would be mute. The bigger issue is that it could just as easily come back later, UNLESS congress codifies the legality of these types of gun kits. Ultimately that is the better solution. And we should push for that type of legislation before the left gets a chance to push their version.
The 2022 regulation was focused on kits sold online with everything needed to build a functioning firearm
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Everything? Not as I understand it.
Maybe a lot of parts, but not a reciever which is serialized when manufacturered for sale.
Private parties can make a firearm for their personal use, no serial number... But can’t sell, give, trade, etc. to anyone else.
Did Daniel Boone’s rifle have a serial number? Who built it? Where was the ATF at that time?
Some recievers are 3d printed, Some are machined from an “80%” complete piece of material. I’ll bet some are machined from scratch. (I know little kids in Afghanastan make AKs from raw materials.)
More detail is needed. This is first New York Post article, hype and all that.
nearly impossible-to-trace weapons
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When ever did tracing weapons help solve anything?
Oh, what was that Operation selling guns into Mexico?
And the Trump shooter(s).
the “explosion” in “ghost guns”
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Aren’t these white, like with a sheet on them? LIke Casper?
They need to call them “demon guns”, like black, with hoodies, invisible in the dark.
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