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Posted on 10/06/2024 3:29:31 PM PDT by Red6
The High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) supplied to Ukraine by the US has been “completely ineffective” on the battlefield due to persistent Russian jamming.
This is according to a classified Ukrainian weapons assessment seen by The Washington Post, exposing more flaws in some of America’s most sophisticated weapon systems.
According to the report, Kyiv had to pause or scale back its use of some US-supplied weapons because of targeting issues caused by Moscow’s electronic warfare (EW) capabilities.
One source said the HIMARS sometimes misses its target by more than 50 feet (15 meters).
Apart from the Lockheed Martin missiles, the report said Russian jamming is also rendering the Excalibur GPS-guided artillery shells less effective.
“The Excalibur technology in existing versions has lost its potential,” the assessment claimed, disproving the weapon’s “one shot, one target” reputation.
The Russian Ministry of Defense recently claimed that the US-supplied HIMARS rockets are no longer considered a difficult target for the invading forces.
Its Buk-M1 surface-to-air missiles are reportedly capable of taking down the advanced American weapon with “sniper accuracy.”
The missiles are mostly positioned in Donetsk to protect the Russian-controlled Ukrainian territory.
“Its main trump card is its firing accuracy, which leaves no chance to enemy air targets, including Western-made missiles,” the ministry stated.
The Buk-M1 has a striking distance of 100 kilometers (62 miles).
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/05/24/russia-jamming-us-weapons-ukraine/
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My 5 cents: Initially our systems were highly effective, the media did not lie about that.
The problem is simply that modern high tech weaponry is dependent on certain technologies to make it work, and all of these once known can be overcome. Systems can be hardened, made more difficult to counter, but that too can be over come.
Our defense industry is massive, bureaucratic, and slow to adapt. Especially if it's not our kids dying right now (the pressure isn't the same). I am sure we have folks on the ground in Ukraine regards military hardware, I am sure we are bringing things back to the US for analysis, but are we truly keeping up? I doubt it. As stated earlier, the pressure to do so isn't there.
This war in Ukraine will take many of our key weapon systems, what our own military depends on, and significantly reduce its capabilities since how they work, even our tricks, are known and solid countermeasures and tactics have been developed.
HIMARS PATRIOT Javelin Excalibur Stinger Q36, 47, 64 ATACMs HARM Jamming systems Drones (many, various)
We still use much of that, and like in the Mad magazine style Spy vs. Spy game being played in Ukraine vs. Russia, they are making advances by leaps and bounds trying to out-do each other in the tech game on the battlefield. Where does than leave our weaponry in the long run?
I should also state that this won’t be isolated to Russia.
We can expect that China and others will learn the same lessons and adopt similar technologies to counter our weaponry.
If the Russia apologists have to run propaganda articles like this, it just shows how worried Russia really is about HIMARS
“If the Russia apologists have to run propaganda articles like this, it just shows how worried Russia really is about HIMARS”
LMAO
Much like the propaganda about how ineffective the Maginot Lines were. The Germans were terrified of them in truth.
:)
If Russia can jam them, it’s way better to find out now and fix it so when we have to use them ourselves we’ll know they work.
Israel is an extension of USA military arm. Israel , using American weopons , Israel has tested and keeps testing American weapons in every war they have been in. It’s to Americas advantage that Israel never fully defeat its enemies
“US-Made HIMARS ‘Ineffective’ in Ukraine Due to Russian Jamming”
Neocon Response: “I don’t understand, GPS works great in my car when I have to get home from the Lobbying Society?”
Zeeper Response: “Who cares, let’s take it to the next level! After all, we still have nukes and a few of them likely will work.”
Question -
If Russia is REALLY so effective at jamming Western missiles, then why is Putin scared to death of longer-range missiles?
Russia even revised their nuclear doctrine, they’re so scared of those missiles ...
Why? If Russia’s jamming is so effective??
Answer - this article is more Russian lies and dis-info
...aaannd they can just switch back to INS and cluster munitions. Can’t be jammed.
Instead of 1m accuracy it will be 5m accuracy for the 600+ titanium, shaped charged sub-munitions. Yeah, they were outlawed but so was WP which Russia has used extensively. So UKR gets some for evaluation purposes.
Don’t care
Defend civilization. Punish the aggressor, the oppressor, the destroyer of cities and civilians.
I hope Trump sends over a few squadrons of A-10s with a few training personnel.Putin would be at the table within a week.
Cluster munitions are not outlawed, some countries that don’t really need them have signed off on not using them.
Don’t sweat the Russian bots here. A big thumbs up for your comment.
The Office of the Embassy of Northern Havana
(Toronto, Northern Havana October 6, 2024) - In response to the failure of the United States HIMAR systems, we issue the following statement:
"If the Russia apologists have to run propaganda articles like this, it just shows how worried Russia really is about HIMARS."
That must be why there are so many videos showing HIMARS strikes against Russian equipment and troops where the HIMARS rockets land right on top of the target.
Thanks.
The tip-off was when Russia changed their nuclear doctrine last month, that was basically an admission of how effective the Western-supplied weapons really are, and how scared Russia is of them.
No wonder they’re desperate to cut off the flow!
But please tell all of the Russian military guys you know that they don't have to worry about any HIMARS strikes anymore. All of the latest rockets have very poor aim and the Russians can just park their equipment anywhere they want, and have dozens of soldiers gather for meetings, concerts, and training without any worry at all.
Actually A-10s are not that useful in a contested airspace.
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