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Robert F Kennedy, Jr. explains why Ukraine in NATO will result in WWIII.
X ^ | 8/??/24 | RFK, Jr.

Posted on 08/27/2024 7:03:01 AM PDT by hardspunned

The ridiculous US attitude to Russia defined in one minute.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 2yearsofww3; killkillkillforpeace; mic; nato; putinswar; rfkjr; robertfkennedyjr; russia; ukraine; welfarewar; wwwiii; yeahsure; yeahyeah; zelenskyqs
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To: redgolum

You’ve nailed it. There are several of those old asshats on FR.


21 posted on 08/27/2024 8:20:28 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: JonPreston

Exactly. If inflamed means put us back on the right track and piss off the 46% or so of stupid people that want our demise, then I am ok with it.


22 posted on 08/27/2024 8:20:33 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: hardspunned

The Ukrainians (and Georgians) were neutral until Putin started threatening them in the early 2000s.

You do realize that Ukraine and Georgia petitioned to join NATO in 2008 and it was rejected “for fear of provoking Putin” - exactly what you are saying today in 2024?

and what happened when Germany and France rejected Georgia and Ukraine’s requests to join NATO? did Putin say “Hey, that’s great, NATO is not going to take Georgia and Ukraine, no worries”?

No, he invaded Georgia 6 weeks later.

Sorry, but Putin has only wanted instability on his borders, which is why he created “frozen conflicts” all over - from Transdniester to the Donbas and Luhansk People’s republics to South Ossetia etc. etc.


23 posted on 08/27/2024 8:21:22 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: hardspunned


24 posted on 08/27/2024 8:24:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: hardspunned

Obvious but needs to be said anyway for the misguided and complacent.


25 posted on 08/27/2024 8:27:51 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The world is driven by envy, not greed.)
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To: Rural_Michigan
Maybe we need a little inflating. Wake folks up when they smell the smoke?

A very wise man once told me to always use the right tool for the job. Thanks Dad. I love you.

26 posted on 08/27/2024 8:29:51 AM PDT by Kudsman (30yr registered Conservative wants a complete Republican House & Senate. Protect the king.)
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Imflaming. Not inflating, drat that auto stuff!


27 posted on 08/27/2024 8:30:38 AM PDT by Kudsman (30yr registered Conservative wants a complete Republican House & Senate. Protect the king.)
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Omg. I give up.


28 posted on 08/27/2024 8:31:02 AM PDT by Kudsman (30yr registered Conservative wants a complete Republican House & Senate. Protect the king.)
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To: Who is John Galt?

Putin is not interested the death throes of Muslim-infested Europe


29 posted on 08/27/2024 8:31:14 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The world is driven by envy, not greed.)
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To: hardspunned

True, especially since UK is run by criminals. They, the gov’mt, are thugs looking for a protector. Same as hamas. And, supported by the same people.


30 posted on 08/27/2024 8:35:40 AM PDT by bobbo666
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To: Rural_Michigan

I will tell you who really inflames America.

The Democrat Party.

Bobby would never have gotten to do what he wants to do without the the real uniter that is Donald Trump.

I encourage you and everyone to listen to this short 7 minutes of VDH and Megyn Kelly regarding Donald Trump. It is enlightening considering Megyn and Trump used to be at odds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6cFKv43cbk&t=388s

This is who Trump has always been.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUv9TE4bl3k&t=703s


31 posted on 08/27/2024 8:50:20 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Resolute Conservative

When I read those kinds of comments it’s easy for me to understand why we’re in trouble.


32 posted on 08/27/2024 8:51:44 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Kudsman

Turn it off on your phone. LOL Auto Correct is a democrat.


33 posted on 08/27/2024 8:51:52 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Seaplaner
We concern ourselves with Ukraine's borders for 2 reasons:

  1. The USA (and the UK and Russia) signed the Budapest memorandum on 5th December 1994 agreeing to :
    1. respect Ukraine's (and Belarus and Kazakhstan's) existing borders
    2. Refrain from the threat of use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine
    3. Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the governments of Ukraine

  2. Putin has used Salami tactics to

    to grab territory - he got Crimea and much of the Donbas already in 2014

    Everyone thought that he would be satisfied - but his salami intentions were clear -- if he got all of Ukraine in feb 2022, he would not be satisfied


34 posted on 08/27/2024 8:54:12 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

the thing is what do we mean by “win”?

Ukraine “winning” is about getting Moscow to accept that it can be not under Moscow’s thumb.

A “demilitarization” is not going to happen as long as Moscow is threatening to assimilate Ukraine.

But a Ukraine being a NATO member is very vague - they could possibly agree to being one with no offensive weapons —> but the Kremlin won’t agree to anything but a defenseless Ukraine


35 posted on 08/27/2024 9:05:19 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Who is John Galt?

The US has and had national interests in Ukraine. Not vital, but quite important.

It became more important when Putin in Feb 2022 went for a head-shot.

If he had stuck to just absorbing the Donetsk People’s republic and Luhansk People’s republic, no one would have had the same worries (except Poland and the Baltics, but no one would have listened).


36 posted on 08/27/2024 9:07:43 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The invasion of the Soviet Union was preceded by the Soviet union invading Poland.

If the USSR had NOT invaded Poland in 1939 alongside its ally Nazi Germany, then there would have been a buffer state between the two.

The Nazi invasion was possible only because the Nazis and Soviets were allies in 1939-1941 and Soviet raw materials helped the Nazis defeat France and cow the UK


37 posted on 08/27/2024 9:12:29 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: E. Pluribus Unum


38 posted on 08/27/2024 9:13:30 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Two shovels full of your BS for one post today. Gee, thanks.


39 posted on 08/27/2024 9:19:55 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: House Atreides

Quit stealing my line. I’ve said the same thing many times. Unfortunately, a majority have no idea what we’re talking about.


40 posted on 08/27/2024 9:21:43 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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