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Robert F Kennedy, Jr. explains why Ukraine in NATO will result in WWIII.
X ^ | 8/??/24 | RFK, Jr.

Posted on 08/27/2024 7:03:01 AM PDT by hardspunned

The ridiculous US attitude to Russia defined in one minute.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 2yearsofww3; killkillkillforpeace; mic; nato; putinswar; rfkjr; robertfkennedyjr; russia; ukraine; welfarewar; wwwiii; yeahsure; yeahyeah; zelenskyqs
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The EXACT thing I said on 2/25/22 and everyday since. What Kennedy says is the absolute truth. Neutrality and peace are the only options.
1 posted on 08/27/2024 7:03:01 AM PDT by hardspunned
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To: hardspunned

for Neocons peace doesn’t pay nearly as well as war.


2 posted on 08/27/2024 7:09:37 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: hardspunned

I’ve been saying that it was the intent from the beginning to make it WWIII, because the powers at be want Europeans gone.


3 posted on 08/27/2024 7:12:07 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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To: hardspunned

Imagine WW3 under Kamala. That’s where we’re headed if she get elected. What joy?!?!?


4 posted on 08/27/2024 7:13:16 AM PDT by boycott
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To: hardspunned

Part of me wonders if there aren’t a lot of old men who REALLY want their old Cold War plans to light off just to justify their careers.


5 posted on 08/27/2024 7:15:39 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: hardspunned

Not happy RFK dropped out but I am happy his message is getting out there. He’s been saying this stuff for awhile and finally people are taking note.


6 posted on 08/27/2024 7:16:23 AM PDT by Rural_Michigan
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To: boycott

“Imagine WW3 under Kamala. That’s where we’re headed if she get elected. What joy?!?!?”

Losing won’t bother them one bit. In fact, I think they’d be more upset if we won.


7 posted on 08/27/2024 7:16:24 AM PDT by rxh4n1 ( )
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To: hardspunned
His points are excellent, and his sincerity is obvious.

Ukraine is not an ally.

Why on earth do we concern ourselves with Ukraine's borders when we don't secure our own borders?

Why on earth do we push a nuclear power to come after us when there is absolutely no reason to do so?

This Veteran of the Vietnam War (never boots down, but I took an active part) recognizes foolish escalation and ridiculous optimism. Only this time, the consequences for us, as RFK Jr explains, could be more serious.

8 posted on 08/27/2024 7:23:28 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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To: Seaplaner
There you go with common sense questions again.

Somebody wake Joe. He is probably napping again.

9 posted on 08/27/2024 7:26:20 AM PDT by Kudsman (30yr registered Conservative wants a complete Republican House & Senate. Protect the king.)
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To: Seaplaner
There is also this idea that somehow Ukraine has to win. There are numerous civilizations, empires, states, and cities that cried uncle, declared defeat, licked their wounds, and then survived and thrived.

Fighting to the last man is never a great strategy.

10 posted on 08/27/2024 7:29:58 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (Kafka was an optimist.)
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To: Jonty30

Seems like “the powers” in you-rope have pretty much tossed the common folks to the hyenas already. Not much hope for the yoops from what we see here. FReepers in the EU.....comments?


11 posted on 08/27/2024 7:32:06 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: hardspunned
Quite true. The US had no vital national interests in Ukraine in 1983, or 1993, and Ukraine is not a vital interest to the US today. We intervened on the basis of a lie: "IF WE DON'T STOP PUTLER NOW, HE'LL BE IN PARIS NEXT WEEK!!!" What a joke that has turned out to be, although Russian capabilities (or rather, the lack thereof) were readily apparent two years ago, to anyone who was willing to ignore the propaganda and consider the facts.

Ukraine is indeed a vital national interest to Russia, which is why Russia is exceedingly unlikely to lose the conflict, no matter how long and costly it may become. For the US, the least detrimental outcome will probably be a negotiated settlement of the Vietnam pattern (our adversary promises to play nice, we walk away, and the locals fend for themselves). It probably shouldn't surprise anyone if US interventionism under FJB ends the same way as US interventionism under LBJ...

12 posted on 08/27/2024 7:34:06 AM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: Rural_Michigan

His environmental stance, best I ever heard.

His Make America Healthy Again plan, best I’ve ever heard.

His ideas to defang the police state, best I’ve ever heard.

His plans to end censorship, best I’ve ever heard.

His ability to present these ideas, best I’ve ever seen.

I just heard his positions for the first time last night.

And he’s been living these positions for FORTY years!

GD censorship!


13 posted on 08/27/2024 7:40:09 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

He had my vote. If he’s backing Trump I guess I will again as well but I think RFK would have helped heal our nation. Trump inflames it.


14 posted on 08/27/2024 7:46:09 AM PDT by Rural_Michigan
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To: hardspunned

Neocon and Statist/Prog arrogance is born of their control of Washington DC, Fed.gov and US media.

Outside of that, they have made America extremely weak.


15 posted on 08/27/2024 7:54:55 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: hardspunned

What Kennedy says is the absolute truth. Neutrality and peace are the only options.

I agree with you and Kennedy. NATO (Which always ends up being mostly US) doesn’t need to provoke Russia in Ukraine.

The difference between Kennedy and my opinion is that we need to bring manufacturing BACK to the US, and protect American Workers and Unions manufacturing here. Trump gets that, the Democrats don’t.


16 posted on 08/27/2024 7:57:02 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: Rural_Michigan
RFK would have helped heal our nation. Trump inflames it..

Please explain how Trump inflames America.

17 posted on 08/27/2024 8:06:32 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Pete Dovgan

IMO the Elites/Deep State need WWIII and a true pandemic to reshape the world into their utopia which resembles Panem in The Hunger Games.

A population-restricted number of countries/Districts (let’s say 10...biblical enough) that exist to serve the abode of the Enlightened (the Capital).


18 posted on 08/27/2024 8:09:39 AM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: Jonty30

Unless you include Putin and the Russians in “powers that be”, that is an incorrect statement.

Putin always has stated that he doesn’t see Belarus and Ukraine as “legitimate countries” and that they should be absorbed into the Rossiski Mir (Muscowite world)


19 posted on 08/27/2024 8:10:45 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: hardspunned

Look, we’ve always been at war with Eastasia! /sarc


20 posted on 08/27/2024 8:17:52 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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