Further humiliation for Putin as footage shows Ukrainian military convoy of tanks and soldiers pouring into Russia - a day after his stony-faced reaction to news of invasion was revealed

Daily Mail ^ | 8th August 2024 | David Averre and Will Stewart

[Cronos]

A convoy of Ukrainian armoured vehicles carrying jubilant troops was captured trundling through Russia's Kursk region in a fresh humiliation for Vladimir Putin after Volodymyr Zelensky's forces launched a surprise assault earlier this week.

Tanks, armoured personnel carriers, a UR-77 mine-clearing vehicle and other army equipment were seen surging through a rural area in footage taken by a Ukrainian mortar position and shared to Telegram this morning.

Kyiv's forces stormed across the border on Tuesday morning, deploying around 1,000 troops and more than two dozen armoured vehicles and tanks in an unexpected assault on Russian soil, according to the Russian army.

The key gas transit town of Sudzha is under partial Ukrainian control and almost ringed by its forces as Kyiv's troops advanced up to six miles into Russian territory - the most serious border incursion of the conflict so far, the Institute for the Study of War said today.

[Who is John Galt?]

[Bobbyvotes]

Putin does not cost me higher taxes. I do not have any reason to like him or hate him. I only hate people who support Ukraine war with my tax money. I want my taxes to be spent on Americans, not on unnecessary war in Ukraine.

[Bobbyvotes]

Are this childish? There are 150+ free countries in the world. Only a financial moron would want to play role of world police with $35,000,000,000,000 national debt and growing by Trillions.

[Bobbyvotes]

Ukraine deserves all the beating they will get for pushing NATO membership on Russia’s border. Mexico is smarter.

[ducttape45]

Dude, don’t be wise guy. I was asking a legitimate question.

[Engraved-on-His-hands]

Ukraine deserves all the beating they will get for pushing NATO membership on Russia’s border.

So do Norway, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland also deserve a beating? After all, they, too, are NATO nations that border Russia?

[adorno]

Ukraine deserves all the beating they will get for pushing NATO membership on Russia’s border.

Do some thinking for a change.

If NATO membership was the problem for Putin, that had been a problem for a number of years. It's only when Biden became president that Putin saw the opportunity to go after Ukraine, which had been his goal for many years in order to rebuild a new Soviet Union. So, if the NATO membership was a problem for many years, why didn't Putin make it an issue during Trump's presidency? Putin saw the opportunity and took it, because, he had a very weak American president in place. If NATO was the problem for Putin, why was it a problem only when Biden became president?

Mexico is smarter.

Why bring Mexico into the discussion? Was Mexico ever offered NAT) membership?

And, didn't Russia express interest in becoming a NATO member at one time? NATO was not a problem then, was it?

I'm sure Putin appreciates all your efforts on behalf of his invasion and your glee about the suffering in Ukraine is just the topping on the cake for him.

[adorno]

There are 150+ free countries in the world. Only a financial moron would want to play role of world police with $35,000,000,000,000 national debt and growing by Trillions.

One cannot be more childish and stupid than to say something like that. Fortunately for the world, including YOU, we have been and continue to be the world's policeman. If not for NATO and if not for us, where do you think the world would be by now? No doubt,there would have been another World war with perhaps hundreds of millions killed as a consequence. The U.S. heavy in debt or not,has prevented the world from going to hell. Try to be grateful and not so stupid.

[adorno]

Putin does not cost me higher taxes.

Oh yes he does. And so do the Chinese and Iran and all of our enemies. You're just not smart enough to realize how that is.

I do not have any reason to like him or hate him.

The European countries do, and they hate that they have to be on edge because of the aggressive nature of Putin and Russia.

I only hate people who support Ukraine war with my tax money.

I don't hate you, but I do hate the fact that you're too naive to even realize how you are helping America's enemies.

I want my taxes to be spent on Americans, not on unnecessary war in Ukraine.

Money spent on Ukraine and elsewhere for defense, is money well spend for keeping America safe. Ukraine is just a battle front, of which there are many.

You are what the democrats call 'one of us'. You want to spend money on Americans, which is what the democrats have done for decades, and forgetting that, defense money is more important than domestic spending. Our defense systems have suffered while the military spending has been cut in favor of spending on social spending. Kamala wants to welcome you to the democratic party.

[alexander_busek]

Dude, don’t be wise guy. I was asking a legitimate question.

Okay, sorry! Thought you were being a concern-troll.

The answer is:

By employing a 270° von Clausewitz Maneuver combined with a lateral pincer movement with medium-range artillery support, it was hoped that enemy forces would be lured into adopting a Sizilianische Verteidigung posture, but with inadequate air cover. Since their supply lines would be endangered, this would necessitate subordinating their logistical..

I'm not getting too technical for you, am I?

Regards,

[alexander_busek]

Money spent on Ukraine and elsewhere for defense, is money well spend for keeping America safe. Ukraine is just a battle front, of which there are many.

Excellent précis!

Regards,

[ducttape45]

I guess I see your point, but no, I'm not a concern troll. I honestly didn't understand much about that the strategy being employed over there so that's why I asked the question.

As for being too technical, well, there is a line in the very first Transformers movie that goes like this, "English, dude, English." That's my humorous attempt at saying, yeah, all that went right over my head.

[Bobbyvotes]

Travel around the world. I have, to more than 50 countries. There are many countries quite powerful AND less national debt than ours based on GDP. We are broke and going more broke with stupid unnecessary wars in foreign lands. Why we spent hundreds of Billions to protect Ukraine’s borders while ours is undefended? Do you know that now interest on debt is the biggest item in federal budget?

I could not care less if Ukraine loses or Russia loses. Every major power in history met its demise with excessive foreign wars and excessive debt.

I only care about future of United States. Could not care less about Ukraine, Russia, China, Iran, etc.

[adorno]

There are many countries quite powerful AND less national debt than ours based on GDP.

No need to travel around the world to know what's going on. In the modern world, we now have TV and internet and radio and smartphones with instant communications capabilities to almost anywhere in the known universe.

When it comes to GDP vs debt, comparing other countries to the U.S. is like comparing elephants to mice. Not even close. No other country can compare, and no other country has taken on the amount of responsibilities as the U.S. has. And we can't get away from doing that. So, find another issue to complain about.

We are broke and going more broke with stupid unnecessary wars in foreign lands.

Yeah, broke but still spending more from where it doesn't exist. But, it's not foreign spending that has us going broke. Our domestic spending with so many social programs is many times that which we spend overseas, whether for wars or just simple 'foreign aid'. So, look to our domestic spending for what has us going broke.

Why we spent hundreds of Billions to protect Ukraine’s borders while ours is undefended?

Two completely different issues. Our borders can be closed with what has been budgeted in the past. But, it's not the spending or lack thereof that has the border 'undefended'. Guess what is?

Do you know that now interest on debt is the biggest item in federal budget?

Like I said, it's not foreign wars or foreign debt which has us spending so much and adding to the national debt and causing the interest on that debt to grow so high. Can you guess why the national debt continued to grow even without the war in Ukraine? If you can't guess, the internet is your friend, and so is your local and national TV service.

I could not care less if Ukraine loses or Russia loses. Every major power in history met its demise with excessive foreign wars and excessive debt.

I care. I want Russia to lose and for Ukraine to remain free and independent and for the Ukrainian people to be allowed to recover from the war and live free and prosperous. I want Russia to lose because, they are the aggressors and have no right to invade neighbors.

I only care about future of United States.

I care about the future of the U.S. too, but I also care about the future of the rest of the world, because, what happens in other parts of the world, will also affect us, directly or indirectly. It's a small world after all.

Could not care less about Ukraine, Russia, China, Iran, etc.

Fine, but, they won't leave the rest of the world alone, so, you should care.

Stop being so myopic!

[Bobbyvotes]

You are pathetically under informed.
No need to go into details. Your IQ is not high enough to understand. Besides you are a zerper. Bye.

[alexander_busek]

Thank you, adorno, for so thoroughly addressing all of the individual reasons for our providing Ukraine with military assistance and aid!

Your insightful contributions here at Free Republic are much appreciated!

Every dollar spent defending Ukraine is a dollar well spent degrading Putin's expansionist military and thus indirectly strengthening America!

Regards,

[dennisw]

No excuses by Putin can ever change the fact that, he was just looking for a reason to take back Ukraine into a Russian Federation, equivalent to his old USSR.

Putin's grand ego trip. To get into the history books, as the powerful Tsar who forced Ukraine back into a Soviet orbit. Just like back in the good ol days.
Any old lying ass excuse would do. To invade and snatch Ukraine away from being more EU oriented for trade, for culture, for democratic government.

[dennisw]

[adorno]

You are pathetically under informed. No need to go into details. Your IQ is not high enough to understand. Besides you are a zerper.

You post those idiotic comments and then you're going to question my intelligence? A five-year old can do better than what you posted.. Heck, my dog can do better. His IQ is around 10, and you are much less equipped.

[adorno]

Your insightful contributions here at Free Republic are much appreciated!

Thanks. Much appreciate your thoughts.

But, my aim is to battle against the uninformed who think they're doing the right thing, while in reality they're just making things much worse, for our country and Ukraine and the world. Low-information posters with very myopic views.