Posted on 06/21/2024 11:45:07 AM PDT by JonPreston
Nigel Farage has said the West "provoked" Russia's invasion of Ukraine by expanding the European Union and Nato military alliance eastwards.
But he added that the expansion of the EU and Nato gave him a "reason" to tell the Russian people "they're coming for us again".
In an interview with the BBC's Nick Robinson, Mr Farage was challenged over his judgement and past statements, including when he named Russian President Vladimir Putin as the world leader he most admired in 2014.
"I said I disliked him as a person, but admired him as a political operator because he's managed to take control of running Russia," Mr Farage said
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Nor the 2014 “color revolution”.
I can’t believe anyone would take issue with what Farage is saying.
Then I read Zeeper comments.
smh
I guess NATO expansion didn't happen.
And I guess Biden didn't really give $175 Billion to Russia's enemy.
Funniest thing I've read all day!
Bullies don’t need to be provoked, they just do it because it’s their nature.
As vice president, Your Robinette Biden tore down the 2014 Ukranian government with the Maidan Revolution/Coup, while simultaneously encouraging Kiev to begin shelling the Russian speaking Dunbas. But don’t let facts get in the way of you being a Zeeper.
Which is why everyone in the west was urging Zelensky to flee as soon as Russia attacked, thinking that this would be over in a few days. Sorry, but the claim that the NWO bogeymen wanted this war does not hold up to rational thinking.
About bullies.
From 1945 to 2001, among the 248 armed conflicts that occurred in 153 regions of the world, 201 were initiated by the United States, accounting for 81 percent of the total number.
The aggression of Russia in Ukraine their choice our choice was to provoke them to that aggression and that is the honest to God truth.
Pouring a couple hundred billion dollars into Ukraine didn’t help at all of course. Just because Russia miscalculated doesn’t mean the members of the west did not want this war, and hoped for it. This was years in the making.
He’s right you know.
“pushing the bear”
It’s the whore, not the bear.
He’s right.
My point is how could it be that the west wanted to provoke Russia into a war that they all thought Russia would win in a few days? As Spock would say: It is illogical.
PDJT said essentially the same thing a few days ago on a podcast.
You say they are “wrong on the facts”. Which ones, praytell?
NATO did not promise to not expand at the end of the cold war?
NATO did not expand to the russkie border?
Russkies did not loudly and often state that Uke in NATO was a causus belli?
Having NATO in Ukeland shouldn’t make the russkie’s nervous? NATO nukes 100 miles from Moscow is no biggie?
US/CIA/NATO didn’t overthrow the Uke gov in 2014?
Really, what facts do you think are “wrong” [and not the ones you disregard because they undermine your position.]?
Such a simple and obvious truth. Good for him for saying it.
Then Russia broke its promises by seizing control of territory in the east of Ukraine and intervening in Ukrainian politics with a heavy hand. The US and NATO began to provide assistance to Ukraine, none of which violated any treaty or promise to Russia.
As always, Putin claims that help for victims to defend themselves against his thuggery is provocative. I am disappointed that Farage buys into that.
More broadly, by supporting Ukraine in defending herself against Russia, the US and NATO are gradually bleeding out Russia's military power and state finances, just as we did to the USSR during the Cold War. Russia is increasingly unable to develop and deploy new weapons, and within ten years, even their massive nuclear stockpile will be mostly unreliable for lack of maintenance.
Moreover, Russia's demographic crisis and industrial decline are continuing, and there is a fair chance that the Russian Federation will start to lose members as Russian state power declines. For the US and NATO, a great benefit of Ukraine's victory against Russia will be the end of Russia as a major military threat.
How is that? I think you have it completely backwards.
If Putin wanted to make Kiev look like Gaza, that would have been done 2 years ago. Thank god good will prevailed and he didn’t do that.
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