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Great article chronicling the downward spiral of the Scouts.
1 posted on 05/15/2024 8:37:55 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

Human Resources. Dominated by DEI / Cultural Marxists / leftists. That’s where most organizations/corporations are destroyed.

Control every hire and the ‘training’ and they weed out the competent and middle-of-road types. They gain a death grip and destroy the body. THen, the parasites move on to destroy the next host.


2 posted on 05/15/2024 8:40:28 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: fwdude

The left couldn’t care less about the viability of the Boy Scouts. They now have its head on a spit, and will parade it around as a show of their power.


3 posted on 05/15/2024 8:42:57 AM PDT by fwdude ( )
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Didn’t read the article posted.

But wasn’t it true there was a huge push to get the Boy Scouts to stop being “homophobic” and to allow gay staff? Then they did. Then the multimillion dollar lawsuits started about gay staff molesting boys. Then the Boy Scouts declined and went broke.

Is that accurate?


4 posted on 05/15/2024 8:44:46 AM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: fwdude

The Cub Scouts were losing boys’ interest long before they even allowed girls. My husband lost interest when he was a kid because he wanted to do the rough outdoors things; and they had him doing ‘girly’ craft stuff.


5 posted on 05/15/2024 8:48:58 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: fwdude

Of course the Left needed to destroy boys being raised like this:

Boy Scout Oath
On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.


6 posted on 05/15/2024 8:52:15 AM PDT by Vision (Woke is communism and it has no place in America. Election Reform Now! Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: fwdude

The sooner this thing is put out of business the better.

Right now the organization is an attractive nuisance to parents who don’t pay attention to the left’s agenda.

BSA had a legacy of good and goodwill that some parents may remember and think still exists.

It is a shame anytime a child today is put into this corrupted organization.


8 posted on 05/15/2024 8:55:43 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: fwdude

It was a blue-print used to take down so many independent, civil-society and conservatives organizations - the Boy Scouts, the Catholic Church and many other religious organizations, the NRA, etc...

Find cases of sexual abuse by homosexuals or a hidden sexual predator, and use “conservative” sentiment against those. Then bankrupt them with lawfare by the state. Then as part of a “settlement” re-organize them as neutered and pliant parts of the woke deep-state.

I drove by my city’s former Catholic Bishop’s residence, which was sold as part of a bankruptcy caused by suits stemming from abuse by approx. 35 male homosexual pedophile priests - out of 8000+ who passed through the diocese in the last 75 years (a figure far less than the local public schools BTW)

The house, which has been sold to private owners, was flying an LGBTQ flag.


9 posted on 05/15/2024 8:58:37 AM PDT by PGR88
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as a scout leader, the expansion of the program to include girls in the cub scouts and separate troops in the Scouts of America, can only benefit society.

individual Packs and Troops run independent programs sharing beliefs.

parents, single parents, look for support. we give it.


11 posted on 05/15/2024 9:05:21 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: fwdude
The author raises some good points, but his underlying premise is way off base.

BSA membership peaked at almost 5 million in the early 1970s. By 2023 it was down to about a million. It wasn’t “woke politics” that drove an 80% decline in membership; it was simple demographics. The core base of BSA members (white males) slowly declined, while other demographic groups never had any interest in Scouting. Hispanic immigrants don’t join the Big Scouts. Black kids never did. Asian kids have no interest in what the Boy Scouts have to offer.

Having said that, I’d point out that this pathological fixation on “diversity” that has come to pollute our political and cultural scene over the years is ultimately going to bring about the demise of almost every iconic organization in this country. It won’t be the result of some nefarious scheme. It’s just that even in a nation of 340 million people, you’d be hard pressed to find 5 million of them — or even 1 million — who care enough about a common set of goals, standards and principles to join an organization like the Boy Scouts, the Rotary Club, the local Chamber of Commerce, etc.

Welcome to the Tower of Babel, version 2.0.

12 posted on 05/15/2024 9:09:49 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: fwdude

They committed suicide when they allowed groomer faggots to run the show.


13 posted on 05/15/2024 9:14:00 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: fwdude

This is also an example of why you cannot cave on certain issues of principal.

—Once you crack the door on letting government control any aspect of the Second Amendment, eventually you’ll end up without a right to bear arms. So yes, you have to (must) take an extreme stance on this issue if you think we have a right to bear arms.

—Once you leave the smallest crack open regards abortion (best dealt with by the States as Trump successfully pushed), you’re going to end up with tax payer paid for late term abortions, for under age girls, without parental consent or knowledge.

There are many issues where there is room for compromise, where there are even shades of grey.

There are some issues where you cannot compromise, where you cannot crack the door open even the slightest bit, unless you’re willing to accept that eventually that door will be slammed wide open.

Those people on the fence, that argue for moderation, a middle ground, on these issues of principal where you cannot open the door realistically without having it slammed open eventually are simply for the most extreme and radical liberal ideas usually. They just want to “feel good” about themselves as they propose a middle ground where there in reality in none.

How do you know where there is a middle ground and where not is not as complicated to understand as folks think. (1) Look at the farthest extremes on both sides and ask yourself how many folks are in the middle of that spectrum and on the extreme ends. For example, with abortion you really have a lot of folks that support the most extreme pro-abortion position imaginable. They support it all, literally. So if you cast your vote for the so-called “middle ground” you’re really supporting the most extreme permissive abortion policies. (2) Ask yourself if there is a financial incentive for one side vs. the other. For example, abortion is an industry worth billions not only performing abortions, but also selling the parts of a fetus etc. It’s big money with lobbying and all. If money is involved, there will be pressure to expand it more and more over time and they will ALWAYS have a BS rationalization in hand to justify their cause. Example abortion: stem cells and curing Parkinson’s years ago.

Let me give you a converse example where I am the bad guy. I support the legalization of Marijuana. I know in reality that there is no real middle ground on that issue since most people that want it legal want it entirely legal, in every aspect. The eventual outcome of legalization even if just for medical reasons at first will be that recreational use, stores selling it, farms growing it, THC (not just CBD) containing marijuana will be available. There is no middle ground. Most people for the legalization are on the far end and want total legalization and there is a lot of money to be made. If you do not want my side to prevail, you must be entirely opposed to the legalization of marijuana. Crack the door open, and I will eventually win it all.


17 posted on 05/15/2024 9:20:50 AM PDT by Red6
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To: fwdude

Yet another “traditional” organization that we sat back and watched get devoured by the parasites.


20 posted on 05/15/2024 9:25:46 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Time to throw them out of the Temple...again)
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To: fwdude

My experience with scouting during the 40’s and 50’s was nothing but positive...if not for the faint of heart! But that was when America was still America and we were a much hardier, tougher and more resilient people coming out of the depression and World War 2.

Eagle Scout, Order of the Arrow.


23 posted on 05/15/2024 9:34:09 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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My Son earned his Eagle Rank 30 years ago - I was a troop leader and very involved in the Boy Scouts - His Troop sponsored by our American Legion Post disbanded in 2015.

At one time our town had four troops - sponsored by the Legion - Lions Club and two churches. Today there is one troop still sponsored by the Lions Club - they have 12 Scouts - in two more years that Troop will be gone. There is no saving the Boy Scouts they are disappearing.


24 posted on 05/15/2024 9:36:45 AM PDT by EC Washington
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Last week I met a man who said he started an alternative to BSA that now has 92,000 members. The name of the organization is Campingstickkids web site is www.campingstickkids.com
Hes name is Dr. Eldon Babcock


33 posted on 05/15/2024 10:07:18 AM PDT by Deo et patriae (Make America Great again! rantings.)
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To: fwdude
I'm going to try this from memory, although I may very well forget something:
Trustworthy
Loyal
Helpful
Friendly
Courteous
Kind
Obedient
Cheerful
Thrifty
Brave
Clean
Reverent
36 posted on 05/15/2024 10:19:12 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: fwdude
Everything the Left touches they destroy.
There are no exceptions.
47 posted on 05/15/2024 11:36:34 AM PDT by glennaro (2024: The Year of The Reckoning, lest our Republic succumb to the "progressive" disease of the Left)
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To: fwdude

Our institutions are all shot.

Juniors at this private high school take three months to produce a poster that is labeled a “thesis” and described as “college-level work”:

https://www.greenwichsentinel.com/2024/05/14/cultivating-college-level-skills-in-high-school-juniors/


48 posted on 05/15/2024 11:37:48 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: fwdude

Again? I thought they died years ago.


56 posted on 05/15/2024 1:01:16 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: fwdude
Girl in a jacket

What the h*ll is THIS?!!!! My old Council.

59 posted on 05/15/2024 1:09:08 PM PDT by fwdude ( )
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