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In a variation of "I can't define a woman; I'm not a biologist", now there's "You don't know he's senile; you're not a psychiatrist,"
1 posted on 02/12/2024 1:44:02 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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The lawyers did not diagnose anyone. They did not use “diagnostic terminology.”

What they said was based on their experience prosecuting cases in court. What they said was that the defense would be able to put Biden on the stand and that, alone, would show the jury that Biden did not appear to have the capacity to create the necessary intent.

So, they used their experience to come to the conclusion that 12 random citizens would come to the conclusion that the psychiatrists cannot seem to come to.

As an aside, my Mom saw a geriatric psychiatrist for four years in order to be prescribed medications for her dementia. And it wasn’t until the very end of those four years did he come up with a diagnosis that matched what everyone who spent more than five minutes with her knew.


24 posted on 02/12/2024 1:58:12 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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Clinically, no we don’t have a psychiatrist’s evaluation to
look to. I’d dare any licensed psychiatrist to view what
we can see of this individual on TV, and tell us he’s fit
to serve as president of a very complex super-power.

If they can and do, I’d yank their license to practice.

Either that or they need a lot more practice before they’d
get it back, if ever.

It’s rationally borderline clinical of them to try and
make the case this guy might be mentally fit.


25 posted on 02/12/2024 1:59:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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Who cares what those charlatans think? Psychs are the craziest of all. It’s their drugs that turn mildly disturbed people into mass murderers.


26 posted on 02/12/2024 1:59:25 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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Dr. Weissman says only doctors can assess Biden’s mental state.

Well, okay. However, I must point something out. Dr. Weissman wrote a letter to the editor. But he probably doesn’t have a PhD in English. So what business does he have writing letters without the proper training?

🤔


27 posted on 02/12/2024 2:01:07 PM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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Thus, using the 25th is impossible unless the entire cabinet is made up of MDs.

Right, and I’m the Pope.


28 posted on 02/12/2024 2:02:59 PM PST by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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Lawyers shouldn’t be advising our troops on how to fight a war, or how not to offend our enemies.


30 posted on 02/12/2024 2:03:12 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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A good professional could possibly determine the reasons for memory problems, but anyone can see that tje problems exist.


32 posted on 02/12/2024 2:04:28 PM PST by djpg
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“I’m a psychiatrist. Lawyers shouldn’t be assessing Biden’s cognitive ability..”

Yes. You are a psychiatrist. And you clearly don't understand that Hur is not assessing Biden's cognitive ability. He is explaining how a jury would perceive Biden as the basis for not charging him. So stay in your lane, buddy.

33 posted on 02/12/2024 2:04:37 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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Funny how the Chinese Yale psychiatrist was featured endlessly on CNN in Trump’s term assessing his mental stability without 5 hours or even 5 minutes spent with him.


35 posted on 02/12/2024 2:09:44 PM PST by montag813
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Doctors have lower IQ than lawyers.
And much lower IQ than engineers.


36 posted on 02/12/2024 2:10:19 PM PST by Bobbyvotes (MAGA all the way with PDJT!)
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You have to be crazy to be a shrink.


38 posted on 02/12/2024 2:12:23 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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The author is unintentionally correct.

The Special Council is charged with assessing the facts in the case, not second guessing a jury or anticipating sentencing.

The facts in the case conclude Biden should have been charged.

40 posted on 02/12/2024 2:17:37 PM PST by G Larry (It's RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL immigrants and minorities by importing ILLEGAL Laborers)
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I didn’t read the entire report but from what I read in news reports, Hur didn’t really diagnose anything. He seemed to just report his observations and excerpt transcripts from the deposition, which was “Biden couldn’t recall this or that”. That is exactly what lawyers do. They take their evidence and put it before the courts in pleadings. This has nothing to do with psychiatry diagnoses.

As for a prosecutors, they have to make a separate determination whether a prosecution is likely to be successful. They have to consider the evidence and crimes to be charged if any based on the evidence, and consider what the defense might bring up in trial or pretrial hearings which might include expert testimony from a psychiatrist attesting to cognitive abilities and the like.

So I am not sure what this author is driving at - just a knee jerk reaction in defense of the POTUS that is not relevant to the matter.


41 posted on 02/12/2024 2:18:51 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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Same guy probably thought Trump should have been removed via 25th amendment.


42 posted on 02/12/2024 2:22:24 PM PST by Fledermaus (Is it me, or all of a sudden have the buried trolls come out on FR like cicadas? It's all noise.)
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Most psychiatrists are crazy.

I’d not let them be the final arbitrator.


43 posted on 02/12/2024 2:23:51 PM PST by Paladin2
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Does he also propose that mentally deficient defenses should not be allowed in determining guilt or innocence in a criminal proceeding? Do you think for one moment that Biden’s lawyers would not raise that defense?


47 posted on 02/12/2024 2:32:27 PM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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Gee doc, should such assessment be illegal?

How do you know? you’re not a lawyer.


48 posted on 02/12/2024 2:35:34 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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I’m a homeless moron with an IQ of 47,,and I know senile when I see it.


49 posted on 02/12/2024 2:37:40 PM PST by Osage Orange (I miss Rush)
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I'm a mechanic..I can diagnose your engine failure..in about 20 minutes

Really,,,,I'm just shade tree mechanic....but I still know engine failure when I see it....

50 posted on 02/12/2024 2:41:45 PM PST by Osage Orange (I miss Rush)
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Female Special Agents at Bidens swimming pool were clearly qualified to assess Joe Biden.

They kept saying; I can see your nuts.”


54 posted on 02/12/2024 2:48:00 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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