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Trial Judge Revokes Trump’s Permission to Speak – READ IN FULL
Liberty Nation ^ | Jan 10, 2024 | Liberty Nation Authors

Posted on 01/10/2024 4:43:28 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Here is Judge Engoron’s order refusing Trump to argue at his own trial

As the New York civil fraud trial concludes against Donald Trump, Judge Arthur Engoron has withdrawn permission for the former president to make a closing argument. He had previously agreed and required Mr. Trump to jump through numerous hoops to be able to address the court with his arguments. Reports indicate when Trump’s counsel did not reply to the Judge’s satisfaction by his deadline, Engoron ordered Trump silenced.

Liberty Nation believes you should have all the facts without the spin. As such, we republish the text of Judge Engoron’s order here in full.

“Thus, in my sole discretion, I will consent to let Mr. Trump make a closing argument if, and only if, through counsel by 1/9/2024, and by himself, personally, on the record, just before he speaks, he agrees to limit his subjects to what is permissible in a counsel’s closing argument, that is, commentary on the relevant, material facts that are in evidence, and application of the relevant law to those facts. He may not seek to introduce new evidence. He may not “testify.” He may not comment on irrelevant matters. In particular, and without limitation, he may not deliver a campaign speech, and he may not impugn myself, my staff, plaintiff, plaintiff’s staff, or the New York State Court System, none of which is relevant to this case, and all of which, except commenting on my staff, can be done, and is being done, in other forums. If Mr. Trump violates any of these rules, I will not hesitate to cut him off in mid-sentence and admonish him. If he continues to violate the rules, I will end his closing argument and prevent him from making any further statements in the courtroom. If he...


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arrestengoron; arthurengoron; bloggers; civilwar; noauthority; tds
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Alex Jones was the proof-of-concept of not allowing a defendant to plead innocence or present evidence.

It worked on Alex, so the precedent has been set to use it on all non-Democrats.

1 posted on 01/10/2024 4:43:28 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

grounds for dismissal.


2 posted on 01/10/2024 4:49:17 PM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If I remember correctly, The People’s Court in the Third Reich had a similar protocol — there was a prosecuting attorney, and a judge (who was openly expected to serve as part of the state prosecution). I don’t think the defendant was allowed a defense attorney — they didn’t need one, because everybody already knew they were guilty.


3 posted on 01/10/2024 4:49:38 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What kind of f-ed up kangaroo court is this?!

This is the United States where people have the right to face their acccusers directly.

This is gagging from the bench and this judge and the entire government supporting this just needs to be deposed.


4 posted on 01/10/2024 4:50:48 PM PST by Skywise
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To: outofsalt

Yup.


5 posted on 01/10/2024 4:51:34 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Trump has judge Enrogan by the short hairs....HEHAS TO SHUT HIM UP, thereby giving Trump a YUGE campaign platform and a YUGE prfersser outside the court room.

Exclellent work President Trump!

We see repeatedly why Donald Trump will make a fantastically good president.


6 posted on 01/10/2024 4:52:27 PM PST by Candor7 (Ask not for whom Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!)<img src="" width=500</img>,<a href="">tag</a>)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Weltschmerz


7 posted on 01/10/2024 4:52:36 PM PST by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness. )
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To: ClearCase_guy

And further, no one wanted to be a defense attorney for fear things were so blatantly obvious they might embarrass or prove someone was being railroaded in a sham trial. Then they go bye-bye too.


8 posted on 01/10/2024 4:52:56 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Limiting a closing argument to what is permissible in a closing argument is not forcing anyone to jump through “numerous hoops.”


9 posted on 01/10/2024 4:55:29 PM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Proof the judge already knows the appeal to re-try the case at a higher level will immediately be approved. Without question.


10 posted on 01/10/2024 4:56:32 PM PST by Golden Eagle (It is far easier to fool people, than to convince them they’ve been fooled.)
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To: thegagline

I don’t believe you statement will be understood. But, thank you for posing the reality of the situation.


11 posted on 01/10/2024 4:58:24 PM PST by Oystir
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To: outofsalt
grounds for dismissal.

Give me one case in the history of American jurisprudence where an appellate court “dismissed” (your words, not mine) a case based upon limiting a closing argument to the relevant, material facts that are in evidence, and application of the relevant law to those facts.

12 posted on 01/10/2024 5:01:58 PM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That’s pretty much what I was going to say. I fully agree.

Although, I fear that most people here are just fine with it happening to Alex Jones, and way too many don’t mind it happening to Trump.

But one day soon, it may happen to them, and they will wail about it.


13 posted on 01/10/2024 5:06:16 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: thegagline

Sssssh….

People here have watched Law and Order….they are better judges of what is appropriate in a court.

/ssarc


14 posted on 01/10/2024 5:09:14 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.y out)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

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15 posted on 01/10/2024 5:09:47 PM PST by sauropod (The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.)
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To: Skywise

From the similar year of 1968 in politics.
Sketch from the courtroom artist, now in the Library of Congress.

Sketch #3 below (bound and gagged)
https://www.loc.gov/exhibitions/drawing-justice-courtroom-illustrations/about-this-exhibition/political-activists-on-trial/


16 posted on 01/10/2024 5:10:42 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
“Thus, in my sole discretion, I will consent to let Mr. Trump make a closing argument if, and only if, through counsel by 1/9/2024, and by himself, personally, on the record, just before he speaks, he agrees to limit his subjects to what is permissible in a counsel’s closing argument, that is, commentary on the relevant, material facts that are in evidence, and application of the relevant law to those facts. He may not seek to introduce new evidence. He may not “testify.” He may not comment on irrelevant matters. In particular, and without limitation, he may not deliver a campaign speech, and he may not impugn myself, my staff, plaintiff, plaintiff’s staff, or the New York State Court System, none of which is relevant to this case, and all of which, except commenting on my staff, can be done, and is being done, in other forums. If Mr. Trump violates any of these rules, I will not hesitate to cut him off in mid-sentence and admonish him. If he continues to violate the rules, I will end his closing argument and prevent him from making any further statements in the courtroom. If he violates the current gag order against him, I will immediately direct court officers to remove him from the courtroom forthwith and will fine him not less than $50,000. Finally, he must state on the record before he begins to speak that he also understands that, without exception, defendants, collectively, have only from 10:15 to 12:45, with one 15-minute break, to present their arguments, meaning that whatever time he speaks is time that other defense attorneys will not have.



Judge corpse probably has a script for PDJT to read in court rather than all that useless direct testimony from the defendant.

Judge corpse needs to be back in it's box.

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17 posted on 01/10/2024 5:13:23 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Vermont Lt

Idiot still being idiotic, I see.

Trump 2024


18 posted on 01/10/2024 5:15:20 PM PST by Chainmail (How do I feel about ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: thegagline
Limiting a closing argument to what is permissible in a closing argument is not forcing anyone to jump through “numerous hoops.”

What about not allowing a defendant to plead innocent in the first place?

19 posted on 01/10/2024 5:15:25 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: thegagline

I believe this judge’s actions have been prejudicial against Trump from the beginning. I’m not a lawyer.


20 posted on 01/10/2024 5:18:48 PM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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