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How pro-Russian 'yacht' propaganda influenced US debate over Ukraine aid
BBC News.com ^ | December 20, 2023 | Olga Robinson, Shayan Sardarizadeh, and Mike Wendling

Posted on 12/21/2023 12:05:52 PM PST by Timber Rattler

A website founded by a former US Marine who now lives in Russia has fuelled a rumour that Volodymyr Zelensky purchased two luxury yachts with American aid money.

Despite the false claim, the disinformation plot was successful. It took off online and was echoed by members of the US Congress making crucial decisions about military spending.

It was an incredible assertion - using two advisers as proxies, Mr Zelensky paid $75m (£59m) for two yachts.

But not only has the Ukrainian government flatly denied the story, the two ships in question have not even been sold.

Despite being false, the story reached members of the US Congress, where leaders say any decision on further aid to Ukraine will be delayed until next year.

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Although the yacht rumour is false, the BBC has discovered the story was given a major boost by a Russia-linked website that pretends to be located in Washington.

It is, researchers say, a "likely purpose-built tool for narrative laundering with links to the Russian government".

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: kremlin; propaganda; russianpropaganda; trollfarm; zelensky; zelenskyqs
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Confirms what we already knew...all these Kremlin-generated stories about Zelensky's supposed purchases of yachts and mansions and the like are all LIES!
1 posted on 12/21/2023 12:05:52 PM PST by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Just saw a report yesterday accusing Zelensky of stealing $400 million that was supposed to go to fuel. Whether he bought a yacht or not is irrelevant it’s obvious the scumbag is pilfering aid money.


2 posted on 12/21/2023 12:09:28 PM PST by jimwatx
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To: Timber Rattler

They hate it when you use their own tactics against them.


3 posted on 12/21/2023 12:10:24 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: Timber Rattler
Ukrainians living abroad to be DRAFTED/Mobilized to fight Russia
4 posted on 12/21/2023 12:11:06 PM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: jimwatx

Right. Let us see an itemized list of how OUR money was spent.


5 posted on 12/21/2023 12:12:45 PM PST by alstewartfan ("She looks like she's 19 years old, sitting there , a lady with her legs crossed." Creepy Joe)
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To: Timber Rattler
I think that Zelensky colluded with a yacht salesman. Whether or not the sale was made is irrelevant. It's the seriousness of the charges.
6 posted on 12/21/2023 12:13:11 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: alstewartfan

Yeah don’t hold your breathe waiting for some kind of accounting because it ain’t coming.


7 posted on 12/21/2023 12:16:59 PM PST by jimwatx
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To: jimwatx

So you’re making that accusation from a report from the same Kremlin trollfarm and fake news outlet?


8 posted on 12/21/2023 12:18:08 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." --George Washington)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Whether or not the sale was made is irrelevant. It's the seriousness of the charges.

Does that apply to Trump too?

9 posted on 12/21/2023 12:19:24 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." --George Washington)
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To: jimwatx

The same kind of tactics used here by our URK Zeepers in residence if you ask me. Just on a less effective scale is all.


10 posted on 12/21/2023 12:21:11 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: ClearCase_guy

“I think that Zelensky colluded with a yacht salesman.”

Exactly, I don’t care if it was Zelensky buying the yachts or his agent doing so - all I know is that AMERICAN MONEY paid for the yachts, as that is the only money Ukraine has at this point.


11 posted on 12/21/2023 12:21:30 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Timber Rattler

My source was Seymour Hersh not the Kremlin.


12 posted on 12/21/2023 12:22:12 PM PST by jimwatx
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To: Timber Rattler

Well, it’s the BBC, so…


13 posted on 12/21/2023 12:23:20 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I didn't come here to guide lambs, but to awaken lions 🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️)
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To: BobL
One problem:

The story first emerged in late November on an obscure YouTube channel - one with only a handful of followers and just a single video in its feed.

The next day, it was picked up by a site called DC Weekly, alongside pictures of the two yachts - called Lucky Me and My Legacy - and documents purportedly confirming the sale of the boats to Zelensky's associates.

But the luxury yacht brokers where both vessels are listed for sale said that the allegations are false. The sales documents appear to be forgeries. And instead of having been purchased by Zelensky or his close advisers, both Lucky Me and My Legacy are still up for sale.

14 posted on 12/21/2023 12:24:15 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." --George Washington)
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My source was Seymour Hersh not the Kremlin.

Heh. That old conspiracy theorist is not much better than the Kremlin.

15 posted on 12/21/2023 12:25:26 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." --George Washington)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It is obvious Biden’s war cheerleaders have their minds made up and will never accept all the evidence Biden and Zelensky are corrupted, Ukraine is toast, and the “ end” of this affair is over. Hopium is a powerful drug, “ denial” equally powerful, and the Democrats Russian Derangement Syndrome is still alive…..

I compare senile Joe’s Ukie war to his “ safe and effective “ Covid vax scam, a great deception….the troubling part is just how many Americans were sucked into it all.


16 posted on 12/21/2023 12:25:54 PM PST by delta7
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To: Timber Rattler

The fact that the Dems adamantly refused to allow for any accounting of the funds should tell you all you need to know. Do you take us for fools?


17 posted on 12/21/2023 12:27:04 PM PST by jimwatx
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To: Timber Rattler; JonPreston; delta7; Allegra; cabojoe
LOL!

The anger as Project Ukraine corkscrews into the shell-pocked mud of the Ukraine's Eastern Front is EPIC!!

18 posted on 12/21/2023 12:28:04 PM PST by kiryandil (The Biden: "Zelensky, we need to sit down and have a talk.")
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To: jimwatx
Really?

You saw a report, on the internet, so it must be true, right?

You do realize that this is exactly what was done by the Demonrats to President Trump?

19 posted on 12/21/2023 12:28:29 PM PST by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Quibbling over this yacht story is a joke because it is not the reason people are tired of doling out money we don’t have to Ukraine.

Things are bad in America and we are broke. That is the reasoning. People are also sick of the little coke head with his hand out every couple months.


20 posted on 12/21/2023 12:29:49 PM PST by dforest
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