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How pro-Russian 'yacht' propaganda influenced US debate over Ukraine aid
BBC News.com ^ | December 20, 2023 | Olga Robinson, Shayan Sardarizadeh, and Mike Wendling

Posted on 12/21/2023 12:05:52 PM PST by Timber Rattler

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To: BobL; ansel12

“I don’t know why you are still trying to push this fake story...”

“Fake to those who trust the WESTERN MEDIA.”

The only ones pushing the story are the Kremlin controlled media outlets.


121 posted on 12/21/2023 9:15:36 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: kiryandil

Life must really suck for YOU then.


122 posted on 12/21/2023 9:16:21 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

It may at times - but I don’t have to worry about being stupid, unlike my opponents on this thread.


123 posted on 12/21/2023 9:30:54 PM PST by kiryandil (The Biden: "Zelensky, we need to sit down and have a talk.")
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To: Timber Rattler

I think you should find people who want to send money there, and send your own money.


124 posted on 12/21/2023 10:06:47 PM PST by AnonymousConservative (DO NOT send me sensitive information - http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/surveillance)
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To: kiryandil

“but I don’t have to worry about being stupid”

You’re living proof that ignorance is bliss.


125 posted on 12/21/2023 10:32:25 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

At least you don’t deny that The Duke has you pegged.


126 posted on 12/21/2023 10:52:02 PM PST by kiryandil (The Biden: "Zelensky, we need to sit down and have a talk.")
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Ukraine's Zelenskyy did not purchase two luxury yachts in October. They're still up for sale

Many social media posts carrying the claim cite a Nov. 21 story from The Islander, an online publication, that reported Zelenskyy “is now ensnared in a scandal involving the alleged purchase of two luxury yachts, ‘Lucky Me’ and ‘My Legacy,’ worth a combined $75 million.”

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-zelenskyy-luxury-yachts-75-million-067680385163

127 posted on 12/21/2023 10:54:18 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: McGruff
If The Associated Hamas says it's false, then it's true.
128 posted on 12/21/2023 10:59:22 PM PST by kiryandil (The Biden: "Zelensky, we need to sit down and have a talk.")
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To: kiryandil

Nah, the Duke was talking about YOU there slick.


129 posted on 12/21/2023 11:08:50 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper
Is that the best you can come up with? A playground retort?

"Whatever you say, bounces off me and sticks to you!"

What are you, 8 years old? Grow up, kid.

130 posted on 12/21/2023 11:14:30 PM PST by kiryandil (The Biden: "Zelensky, we need to sit down and have a talk.")
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To: McGruff

Here is a post I made right when the story was first planted here and had just started.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4199638/posts?page=19#19


131 posted on 12/21/2023 11:43:43 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: funwithfood

Russia does attempt to influence with elections all over the world - as does the USA - but drawing the line between legitimate use of soft power, interference and straight up tampering isn’t easy. it’s inconsequential if they barely make a difference.

Of course, sticking thousands of unused ballot sheets in an election held at gunpoint in occupied Southern Zaporizhzhia while nobody in the northern half of the Oblast had a vote is so far away on the wrong side of the line, with most of the election observers on a Kremlin payroll, only idiots call that ballot legit.

The bigger question isn’t which side Russia backed in the USA, it’s how did they do it and how successful were they.

The sheer fact America can’t stop arguing about it proves that Russia definitely did try to influence the population. You’ve got half the country convinced that Russia was backing Trump and the other half convinced Russia backed Clinton/Biden.

If your system wasn’t so vulnerable to tampering and y’all weren’t so easily triggered by conspiracy theories, it wouldn’t be possible for Russia to pull the stunt in either direction.

We’re not much better. Russia can’t really tamper with our elections in the UK to steer the outcome as all party funding is intensely scrutinized and all campaigning has to abide by strict rules, but they sure did fund the unofficial Brexit campaign.


132 posted on 12/22/2023 3:29:53 AM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe" - Holmes to Watson, A Scandal in Bohemia)
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To: MalPearce

It is important for me who did Putin want to win in those elections for my purposes. I would like to know what the pro-Russia contingent here believes it was.


133 posted on 12/22/2023 4:38:22 AM PST by funwithfood
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To: Timber Rattler

Oh yeah he is way out there.


134 posted on 12/22/2023 4:39:10 AM PST by funwithfood
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To: kiryandil
LOL - I can’t believe they still start posts with “So you are saying…” but I see zeeps doing it quite a bit.


135 posted on 12/22/2023 7:10:43 AM PST by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated.)
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To: ansel12

How about this?

“Gerasimov noted that the core of the Ukrainian force used in the counteroffensive consisted of brigades trained and armed by Western nations. The grouping that was supposed to reach the Azov Sea initially included 50 battalions armed with over 230 tanks and more than 1,000 infantry fighting vehicles, half of them Western-made, he reported. The force was later boosted to 80 battalions, according to the general…..”

https://theduran.locals.com/index.php

The Ukies lost, get used to it.


136 posted on 12/22/2023 1:55:42 PM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

That was a weird puzzler relevant to nothing.

The thread is “How pro-Russian ‘yacht’ propaganda influenced US debate over Ukraine aid”

I think you were the very first Russia promoter to plant the fake story on freerepublic.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4199638/posts


137 posted on 12/22/2023 2:49:29 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: kiryandil

Follow your own advice.


138 posted on 12/23/2023 1:57:52 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper
More playground retorts.

Grow up, kid.

140 posted on 12/23/2023 5:24:24 PM PST by kiryandil (The Biden: "Zelensky, we need to sit down and have a talk.")
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