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In His Testimony, Deutsche Bank official says large changes to net worth like Trump’s isn’t unusual
CNN via MSN ^ | 11/28/2023 | Lauren del Valle

Posted on 11/29/2023 7:53:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind

ADeutsche Bank wealth management group managing director testified Tuesday that the bank anticipates that the net worth of high-wealth clients like Donald Trump can be elevated on self-reported financial statements, but it wouldn’t necessarily stop the bank from issuing the loan – and didn’t for Trump’s loans.

New York Attorney General Letitia James has alleged Trump and his company defrauded Deutsche Bank by submitting his inflated net worth statements to get better rate and in doing so also violated loan requirements called covenants.

In 2013, the bank’s underwriters adjusted Trump’s net worth by about 50% from more than $4 billion to roughly $2.65 billion.

But David Williams, who’s worked in the bank’s private wealth management division for 17 years, said the bank wasn’t fazed. “It’s not unusual or atypical for any client’s provide financial statements to be adjusted to this level to this extent,” he testified in the New York civil fraud trial.

Williams was involved in loans for Trump Organization loan assets like the Old Post Office, Doral Golf Resort & Spa and the Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, often signing credit reports related to the loans.

His testimony Tuesday reinforced Trump’s defense argument that the lender was not defrauded and bank personnel conducted a due diligence process that did not rely on Trump’s personal financial statements the judge ruled fraudulent before the trial started. Trump has also argued that the bank was happy to have his business.

“We expect clients provided information to be accurate,” Williams testified. “At the same time, it’s not an industry standard that these financial statements are audited they largely reliant on the use of estimate. That said, we account for that and make some adjustments as a conservative measure.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: abuseofprocess; deutschebank; fraud; harassment; letitiajames; newyork; persecution; trump
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1 posted on 11/29/2023 7:53:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 11/29/2023 7:59:09 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: SeekAndFind
Trump's defense could call God as an expert witness, but the Satanic justices hearing the case would tell Trump's lawyers God was wrong. We are dealing with sociopaths here.

Sociopath: Antisocial personality disorder, sometimes called sociopathy, is a mental health condition in which a person consistently shows no regard for right and wrong and ignores the rights and feelings of others.

3 posted on 11/29/2023 8:03:01 AM PST by 4Runner
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To: SeekAndFind

The bank said it wasn’t unusual or problematic that net worth provided by wealthy clients could vary from what the bank calculated. Bank, from what I understand, has NOT asserted a claim of being defrauded.

The only victim here is Letiticia James. She is being exposed as a political hack, willing to punish political enemies for political gain. I hope the countersuit leaves her penniless, embarrassed and disbarred.


4 posted on 11/29/2023 8:03:18 AM PST by Made In The USA (Ellen Ate Dynamite Good Bye Ellen)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who exactly is the victim of this “crime“?


5 posted on 11/29/2023 8:06:10 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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No one was financially hurt, all were made whole, and all loans were repaid. What’s the problem?

Case dismissed.


6 posted on 11/29/2023 8:06:39 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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The testimony of Deutsch Bank's David Williams reinforced Trump’s defense argument that the lender was not defrauded and bank personnel conducted a due diligence process that did not rely on Trump’s personal financial statements. The wacko judge already ruled these were "fraudulent" BEFORE the trial even started.
7 posted on 11/29/2023 8:08:17 AM PST by Liz (Women have tremendous power — their femininity, because men can't do without it. Sidney Sheldon)
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It’s not unusual or atypical for any client’s provide financial statements to be adjusted to this level to this extent,” he testified in the New York civil fraud trial.

In a sane world, this news would have ended this trial. The Judge should dismiss the entire affair. All the news stations would break in to normal programming with “Bombshell” news. Of course, none of that will happen. The world today is NOT sane.

8 posted on 11/29/2023 8:09:45 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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New York AG Letitia James found a crime to “get Trump”.....now it looks like she’s lost it.

She has brazenly alleged Trump and his company defrauded Deutsche Bank by submitting his inflated net worth statements to get better rate and in doing so also violated loan requirements called covenants.

Now a professional Deutsche Bank wealth management group managing director testified in court that large changes to net worth like Trump’s isn’t unusual.

The bank anticipates that the net worth of high-wealth clients like Donald Trump can be elevated on self-reported financial statements, but it wouldn’t necessarily stop the bank from issuing the loan – and didn’t for Trump’s loans.


9 posted on 11/29/2023 8:22:10 AM PST by Liz (Women have tremendous power — their femininity, because men can't do without it. Sidney Sheldon)
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RE: The Judge should dismiss the entire affair.

Yes, but unfortunately we don’t have a REAL judge in this case, but a political hack chosen by the Attorney General who actually SHOPPED the courts to find him.

This trial is only for show, we already know what the decision will be.


10 posted on 11/29/2023 8:25:15 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: bigdaddy45

Based on the last paragraphs of the article, it was the state paperwork gods.

Seems that the NYS AG has found a new field for state criminal prosecutions: overstatement of assets on approved applications for loans that didn’t default and were paid off in time.

Must be tens of thousands of similar cases just waiting for the attorney generals’s attention.

Hopefully, appellate justices more interested in justice (quaint that) than politics will overturn the case. Especially when the state’s proposed remedy for paying off the loan on time is $200+ million in fines and loss/suspension of the Trump organization’s NYS business licenses.


11 posted on 11/29/2023 8:26:38 AM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This wasn’t the big headline. The big headline was that he said Trump didn’t inflate any valules.


12 posted on 11/29/2023 8:30:08 AM PST by LS
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In the Hannibal Lecter film, there is a scene where the character played by Ray Liotta eats a piece of his own brain.

The day is coming when James and Engoron will be fed chunks of their own brain.

In the Pygmy cannibal James’s case, eating human brain is just an appetizer. /spit


13 posted on 11/29/2023 9:12:32 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: SeekAndFind

In 2013 Forbes had down for $3.5 Billion
https://www.forbes.com/sites/edwindurgy/2013/09/16/the-complete-list-of-the-forbes-400-members/?sh=69f3a3214e21

and in 2014 Forbes had him at $4 Billion
https://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2014/09/29/forbes-400-full-list-of-americas-richest-people/?sh=25537a5a42e3

Everyone’s mileage varies...


14 posted on 11/29/2023 9:16:49 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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It’s even worse than that. The bank witness testified that borrowers for these specific loans must have a minimum net worth of $100 million. So the whole case hinges on whether Donald Trump was worth 50x that minimum or “only” 26x the minimum.


15 posted on 11/29/2023 9:31:25 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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New York Attorney General Letitia James has alleged Trump and his company defrauded Deutsche Bank by submitting his inflated net worth statements to get better rate.

David Williams: "Mr. Trump applied for the loan at a 3.5% annual percentage rate, the best rate we were offering at the time. We did our due diligence and after we adjusted his estimated net worth from $4 billion to $2.5 billion, we determined that he still qualified for the loan at a 3.5% annual percentage rate."

16 posted on 11/29/2023 9:39:56 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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In a sane world, an attorney general wouldn’t look for victims who aren’t there and take care of the ones who are.


17 posted on 11/29/2023 9:57:10 AM PST by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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The case should have been dismissed at this point and Fanni should have been referred for Criminal Prosecution for malicious prosecution, deprivation of rights, fraud upon the court,...


18 posted on 11/29/2023 10:16:49 AM PST by eyeamok
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oopos, its the other angry black female.


19 posted on 11/29/2023 10:17:43 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Alberta's Child

The bank witness testified that borrowers for these
specific loans must have a minimum net worth of $100 million.

So the whole case hinges on whether Donald Trump
was worth 50x that minimum or “only” 26x the minimum.


I dont think Latitia is THAT good at math.......
well, maybe Engoran will HELP her out.......rotflol.


20 posted on 11/29/2023 10:27:49 AM PST by Liz (Women have tremendous power — their femininity, because men can't do without it. Sidney Sheldon)
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