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Kamala Harris v. Gavin Newsom: The Coming Democratic Civil War
The Messenger ^ | November 25, 2023 | Keith Naughton

Posted on 11/26/2023 8:38:41 AM PST by Reno89519

The Democratic Party is united — for now. Fear and loathing of Donald Trump keeps the various Democratic factions in a precarious peace. But labor v. environment, Jewish vote v. Muslim vote, and center-left v. hardcore progressivism cannot remain at bay forever. The fiercest battle may well be the looming civil war between Vice President Kamala Harris and California Gov. Gavin Newsom for the party leadership once President Biden leaves the stage.

And it won’t be pretty.

When Biden named Harris his running mate, he conferred on her heir-apparent status. The pick made sense. VP nominees are mostly about pulling together party divisions or offsetting the nominee’s weaknesses. As an old, white male Catholic, Biden running with a minority female checked some important identity boxes. And, in 2020 with a campaign hobbled due to covid restrictions, Harris did just fine. The “not Trump” campaign worked.

However, given an opportunity to establish herself as the next Democratic hope, Harris has proven rather maladroit. Something about her isn’t quite right. Her speeches are mediocre, with poorly thought-out ad libs. Her awkwardness with voters is positively Hillary Clintonesque. After spending her life in the progressive hothouse of California, Harris has shown little ability to build appeal in the other more centrist 49 states. Given the unpleasant portfolio of illegal immigration early in the administration, she failed to distinguish herself. If she has any real policy responsibility today, it’s not apparent.

But what must rankle Harris the most and speaks to how badly she must be viewed in Democratic power corridors is the utter lack of interest in her replacing Biden on the ticket. Joe Biden’s numbers are bad, very bad. His approval has been under water for the past two years. He is running behind Trump on multiple ballot test polls — despite Trump’s myriad problems. The double-minority woman Harris replacing Biden should be the talk of the town. But it isn’t.

Her polling tells the tale: While Biden is an abysmal 14 points negative on the RealClearPolitics approval average, Harris is worse at negative 17.6 — worse than Trump (negative 16.6). In YouGov polling, Harris is 13 points down on approval (Biden is down 10 points) with just 40% approval against Biden’s 42%. She has just a 3-point lead on approval among Black voters but lags 8 points with Hispanics. Independents approve at just 26%, against Biden at 31%.

Harris should take comfort in the fact that there is nobody in the D.C. political scene that is a real threat. The most popular Democrat, Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), is even older than Biden. The septuagenarian Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is getting there. Pete Buttigieg’s (D-Ind.) tenure at Transportation has been miserable. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) and Cory Booker (D-N.J.) are nowhere to be found.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; democrat; harris; newsom
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Civil war? No, Newsom will tact to the middle, leaving Harris with the likes of The Squad, BLM, HAMAS, DEI, etc. It won't be pretty but he'll push her aside without raising a sweat.
1 posted on 11/26/2023 8:38:41 AM PST by Reno89519
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To: Reno89519

You might be right, but watching the prostitute vs the moron will be highly entertaining.


2 posted on 11/26/2023 8:41:04 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Reno89519

“Kamala Harris v. Gavin Newsom...”

Oi veeee... SOME choice right there!


3 posted on 11/26/2023 8:41:14 AM PST by SMARTY ("A lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies." Tennyson)
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To: Reno89519

“My sh*t sandwich is better.”


4 posted on 11/26/2023 8:42:35 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (May I please have a government shutdown?)
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To: Reno89519

Oprah Winfrey VS Guy Smiley?


5 posted on 11/26/2023 8:43:41 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Some here on FR think Michelle Obama would leave one of her estates and her loving husband to run for an office she has abolutely no qualification for.


6 posted on 11/26/2023 8:46:09 AM PST by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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To: Reno89519

Moderate Democrats are a myth.


7 posted on 11/26/2023 8:46:48 AM PST by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Had to look up Guy Smiley. Ditto to that!


8 posted on 11/26/2023 8:51:11 AM PST by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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To: duckman

Me too.


9 posted on 11/26/2023 8:53:42 AM PST by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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To: eyeamok

Head to head....


10 posted on 11/26/2023 8:55:24 AM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Reno89519
Harris was dead last in the primaries. Heir apparent or not she is going nowhere.
11 posted on 11/26/2023 8:56:13 AM PST by Nateman (If the Pedo Profit Mad Moe (pig pee upon him!) was not the Antichrist then he comes in second.)
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To: Reno89519

Others believe Hitlery may try again.


12 posted on 11/26/2023 8:57:36 AM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: Reno89519

Trump is his own man. That’s one reason he’s good for the country.

But Biden, Harris, and Newsom are all puppets. The puppet-masters at the DNC will decide who gets what, and when.


13 posted on 11/26/2023 8:59:28 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Reno89519
labor v. environment, Jewish vote v. Muslim vote, and center-left v. hardcore progressivism .

He forgot feminists/lesbians vs. trannies, blacks/Latinos vs. Asians (on affirmative action), blacks vs. Latinos (on immigration).

14 posted on 11/26/2023 9:02:08 AM PST by Angelino97
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To: Reno89519

Maybe they’ll pull John Edwards out of the closet...(smirk)


15 posted on 11/26/2023 9:05:11 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: Reno89519

“... to run for an office she has abolutely no qualification for.”

Joe Biden did it.


16 posted on 11/26/2023 9:05:51 AM PST by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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To: Reno89519

Newsome will be the nom. By the time the DNC, media, and Hollywood get through repackaging, rehearsing, and marketing this derp, The DNC will prove that yes, in fact, you really can polish a turd.


17 posted on 11/26/2023 9:06:41 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative)
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She’s in charge of the border.
He’s in charge of California.

The best they have.


18 posted on 11/26/2023 9:07:30 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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Some here on FR think Michelle Obama would leave one of her estates and her loving husband to run for an office she has abolutely no qualification for.

It's possible. Slow Joe has demonstrated that the president doesn't need to actually run the country.

19 posted on 11/26/2023 9:07:53 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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Particularly in red-carpeted California, Oct 7th tore off a lot of leftist masks.

This completely upends the usual liberal campaign talking points.


Jews are now facing previously unspoken leftist sentiments.

Anti-Semites don’t hide their grotesque attitudes now, they talk it up 24/7, they are
fearlessly quoted, and, no doubt, would be happy to tell any Jew to his face, if asked.

Jews are now forced to confront their non-Jewish comrades consistently agreeing with them
regarding Leftist causes.......which for non-Jews clearly includes unvarnished anti-Semitism.


20 posted on 11/26/2023 9:09:52 AM PST by Liz (Women have tremendous power — their femininity, because men can't do without it. Sidney Sheldon)
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