Posted on 10/20/2023 9:38:07 AM PDT by Red Badger
New York — The judge in former President Donald Trump's civil fraud trial lashed out at him this morning for failing to remove from his campaign website a derogatory post about the judge's clerk.
The post, which was spotted Thursday by liberal PAC website MeidasTouch, was a duplicate of one posted to Trump's social media site on Oct. 3, and deleted soon after New York Judge Arthur Engoron issued a limited gag order, barring Trump from posting or speaking publicly about the judge's staff.
The campaign replication of the deleted post has since also been removed, but Engoron appeared quite angry Friday.
He asked Trump's lawyers why he shouldn't impose "serious" sanctions, "including financial sanctions" "or possibly imprisoning him."
Trump attorney Christopher Kise apologized and said it was an errant oversight, arguing that it was "truly inadvertent," due to the presidential campaign's "machinery" replicating the post on its website. Kise said there haven't been any subsequent postings about the clerk or other court staff.
Kise said there haven't been any subsequent postings about the clerk or other court staff.
Engoron didn't immediately seem swayed. Donald Trump is still responsible for the large machine," Engoron told him.
Engoron did not say if Trump will face sanctions, but that he was taking Kise's defense under advisement.
Later, after a mid-morning break, Kise addressed the removed post again. He said the post was only highlighted by the campaign to an email list of roughly 25,810 people who work in media, and that ultimately a fraction of that number visited the post on the campaign website.
"Between Oct. 3 and Oct. 19, there were a little over 114 million visitors to the campaign website. Only 3,701 viewed – they're called unique views – viewed the post. That would include anyone that received the email," Kise said.
"Well, you and I are both becoming more tech savvy," Engoron replied.
A spokesperson for the campaign did not reply to a request for comment.
Tensions have been high this week in the case, in which Trump, his adult sons and The Trump Organization are accused of overvaluing Trump's properties and net worth in an alleged scheme to get favorable loans and insurance that benefited them at least $250 million.
The judge issued a ruling last month finding that Trump and his company "repeatedly" violated state fraud law. Trump and the other defendants have all denied wrongdoing in the case. Their attorneys have argued that what James' office calls fraud were subjective valuations of property and wealth.
On Thursday, an attorney for New York Attorney General Letitia James could be heard during a sidebar calling Kise "rude."
The day before, two of James' attorneys yelled at Kise when he said they didn't care about a witness's right against self incrimination.
That altercation played out in front of Trump, who is not required to attend the trial, but did so on Tuesday and Wednesday. Moments before James' attorneys yelled at Kise, they had asked Engoron to admonish Trump, saying he was intimidating the witness, loudly expressing frustration at testimony, shaking his head back and forth and throwing his hands in the air.
Engoron obliged, looking toward Trump's team and saying, "I 'll ask everyone to be quiet while the witness is testifying."
Screw you, judge. And go to hell on top of it.
“Well, you and I are both becoming more tech savvy,” Engoron replied.”
Oh please.... That moron judge couldn’t piss his way out of a wet paper bag.
I have no idea how a gag order can be made retroactive to a post that has already been public for quite some time. Anyone with a law license have an answer to that???
Could be the scene of a small civil war. The cops love Trump and a good chance would defy any court order to arrest Trump.
Of themselves, the judiciary has no enforcement power. The judiciary needs the executive branch (cops) for enforcement.
The only people I know who post/read that site have a room temp IQ just blindly parroting what some s*^$@y info graphic/meme they posted. They are not even capable of any interdependent thought, even if you try.
Will anyone be protesting in front of this left wing nut’s house?
Yep.
I enthusiastically second that motion!!! There is wa-a-a-y too much Violation of Civil Rights under Color of Law going on right now from both civil authorities the bench occupied by anyone with a (D) following them.
We have a little would-be tyrant on our hands. Does anyone want to bet that Mao is on this judge’s list of most admired people?
I was just gonna make a similar comment. How does one not understand the concept of “views” of a website, video, etc. in 2023. Even if not that savvy and old, think back to newspapers, they knew how many were soled each day. Same concept.
All the other hack marxist activist judges are taking notes. THIS is how they get Trump in prison without a trial until after the election. They are not letting him win. There is no doubt in my mind they are cooking up a way to “Epstein” Trump.
So the gag order doesn't apply just to Trump, a person, and perhaps his attorneys, it applies to his Presidential campaign as well. I hope it also applies to media organizations who quote it to cast Trump in a bad light. Maybe it applies to everyone, so I won't quote him.
We are a nation of petty, tyrannical Democrat lawyers.
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If the essence of the US could be summed up in one sentence, this is it.
A gag order only applies to those individuals and entities that the judge has jurisdiction over. However, when subject to a gag order, you can't use proxies/surrogates to get around the order.
Coming to a theater near you...
Let’s get it over with. Put Trump in prison. Then be surprised at the results.
We’re also a nation of political prisoners ... as disgusting and immoral as it gets.
“Donald Trump is still responsible for the large machine,” Engoron told him.”
Machine? What machine? Trump is not in office. He is a private citizen running for President fighting against the machinery of corrupt judges.
The cops love Trump, well that’s not exactly true. Not all cops love Trump.
There’s more than enough DIRTY Cops in the FBI alone that would be more than happy to arrest Trump. Hell, I bet there are more than a few that would happily take things way too far.
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